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Hello Growers & Tokers! Check out the leaves on these ladies! 😍 Super duper healthy they are and that's why they got topped this week. I highly doubt they'll suffer any stress from being topped. My plan is to have as an even canopy looking to have about 6-10 colas per plant. They got some chunky leaves on them which will be taken off next week before switching them to flower. These ladies are gonna get big! 😍 😍 Can't wait to have that lovely lemony aroma flowing in the mix. Take care out there and happy growing!
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2018-03-20 Week 12 Day 1 New week and not much to say. No water or nutes today, just the regular weekly check to see that they look nice and healthy. Raised the lamp about 10 cm to make sure that the girls don't get burned again. Sour Ripper nr1 is 59 cm Sour Ripper nr2 is 57 cm ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Strain information After much effort Ripper seeds can introduce one of the most appreciated varieties by genetic collectors. They have worked to get one of the few lines of Sour Diesel feminized version preserving the main qualities of a good Sour D: flavor and potency. Sour Ripper has a sativa structure with a wide distance between branches, little foliage and a more compact and desirable bud than the Original Sour Diesel we work. It's flowering period is 65-70 days. The most "undergrown" taste of the United States available for your collection. Vegetative: 1 to 2 weeks Genotype: 60% Sativa / 40% Índica Indoor flowering: 65/70 days. Outdoor flowering: Mid October Yield: Medium / High Effect: Powerful. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Hey there guys Check out this week spoilers From Feb 14 til Feb 21 we gonna be showing up vids and pics fellas Also, tomorrow the 20th we got to feed the girls, we got to keep them tight at the LST so we need to stick an eye on them for them to grow and yield the way we want to Hey any advice is more than welcome feel free to post any comment or what you feel Let us know how we can improve our diaries, pics, vids, just let us know what you think about us and what do you have for us to share on a positive vibe always of course Take care growers good vibes and good luck with your grow to all of you At the grow diary community and for those who haven't found us yet We here we salute you And we send you blessings Canna growers won't stop growing Jah bless us all Let's keep it up and rock and roll
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Началась первая неделя цветения Красавица растет !
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Wonderful color😈 The smell is divine🤩 The trim was super easy & the buds are dense & super sticky👌
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- Week 6 - ----- Day 36 ----- No feeding today as it was tomorrow so nutrient line up isn't up yet. I'll do that tomorrow. Ladies are perfect, I can't wait. less than 30 days away. ----- Day 37 ----- Today is feeding but back left is behind the other 3 again, gave the other 3 500ml of tap water (10ppm) to prevent turgor pressure loss while back left dries up. Should be feeding in 3-4 hours. 23L 1100-1500ppm (new feeding, so ppm end is not known atm) 6.4 pH Plants are insane, big Bertha has become middle Bertha as the other stems have fattened up quickly. Speaking of which plants are in bulk period, 3~ weeks left so it's an exciting time to watch them fatten up. **UPDATE** Fed at 1000ppm 23L 6.4pH The removal of FloraNova Bloom, and letting the chelated Diamond Nectar go to work on the molasses brings down the "accountable" parts by the machine I use. 1000ppm is full strength on all fertilizers being used. I might add more molassses in the future and bring it up to 2ml/L, and maybe a smidge of epsom salts next feeding via foliar or direct feeding after I do some research. No more KoolBloom liquid, KoolBloom powder begins and she's a strong one. ----- Day 38 ----- Yesterday back left plant has me unnecessarily anxious. It didn't need watering till 2 hours before lights off. What I did is fed the other 3 90% of the feeding, and only gave back left 10% (closed the irrigation heads till the end of feeding). I'm HOPING it was the plant transitioning from pre-bulk flower to bulk-flower stage, and maybe it slowed down photosynthesis to concentrate on hormonal changes. I dont know I'm anxious and just talkin out loud. I'll know within 72 hours if there's a major issue with back left. Plant looks fine, i'm just paranoid. Pictures later today around mid light cycle. Buds are getting insanely fat. **Update** Was bored. Here's some wicked shots. Still 25-27~ days left and its big bulk time. Can't wait to see them at the end. ----- Day 39 ----- Everything is great. Feeding late tonight or potentially tomorrow depending on back left plant. I want to make sure bottom center of the root zone has dried out and doesn't begin to mold before I water again. This will also help prevent fungus gnats in the soil. I'll keep the other 3 away from turgor pressure loss, but they got 90% of the feeding last time so I expect them to dry by the time back left is. *** Update *** Now the other 3 plants who were faster on water intake than back left yesterday have slowed down. Weed growing knowledge at a Horticultural greenhouse scientific repeatable level is pure fucking garbage. I have 6~ books and checked dozens of sites and there was major conflicting info on water intake. That's the problem with cannabis, it was illegal for so damn long horticulture practices and knowledge never molded or were used in the process and now it's anyone's fucking guess as to who is telling truth or is spouting bullshit bro-science. Don't even get me started on names. What a stupid god damn naming system "counter-culture" created... I'm growing wedding cake.. WEDDING CAKE? Wtf. That's stupid as shit. Give weed botanical Latin names based on appearance and technical factors PLEASE!!!!!! If I could name this plant it would be (Cannibas v. hybrid 'multa-magnum-fragum-gemmae-dulcis') why? It's due to it being a; Cannabis plant, hybrid variety 'multiple big bud strawberry candy' showing off multiple long bud stems smelling of candy, Is that more convoluted and arrogant than Wedding cake? YES, it is. Is it better? YES fuck your stupid wedding cake name. That's dumb. And you should feel bad. Still want to argue? Name it Cannabis v. Hybrid 'crustulam nuptias' THERE! Wedding cake. fuuuck! 99.99% of plant names are Latin. Anyways... back to the point... I hypothesize that there is a secondary transition portion of flower where the plant (like in stretch transition) pauses its growth to move the hormone and nutrient production to other sources. This secondary pause happens JUST before bulk session begins. This hypothesis states roughly that up until final big bulk period (last 3-4 weeks), fan leaves and sugar leaves could still be produced by the plant during a "predator" or "high weather event" situation that would cripple the plants photosynthesis for final bud/seeding production during early to mid stage flowering. Once the plant has reached adequate nutrient reserves or some other time or light cycle based trigger, it removes the hormonal/internal production/ability of sugar/fan leaves still being potentially produced out of the internode stem cells and fully stops that ability and concentrates 100% of growth on bud structure and protection of bud structures through THC/CBA/CBC/CBD etc. (Im a little tipsy, can't spell cannabinoid leave me alone...) production. Tonight I will at 30 minutes before lights off be judging the water requirements during sleep of each plant to prevent turgor pressure loss, and to allow each plant to finish this transition and get back to major water intake by feeding tomorrow morning. It's insanely obvious somethings changed. I Was worried that leaving back left plant with stagnant water in the bottom saucer (pot doesn't sit directly in the water but is 3 inches above it) had released mold spores and started destroying the root mass of the back left plant but: 1) No obvious plant death signs, weakness or other aspects of it being a slow death from bottom up. 2) The other plants did the same damn thing within 48 hours.... and the back left plant is by far the largest and gets the most "light" due to its size hence it would most likely (HYPOTHESIS) finish its secondary cycle a bit faster due to just volume and weight. Listen i'm not gonna say this is all 100% correct knowledge, It's based off feeling and "knowing" plant cycles as a greenhouse certified Horticultural Technician. Repeated efforts to grow and replicating situations that created these things over and over is the real proof and will come in time. One major benefit is the fact I WILL be re-flowering these for the VERY LEAST 3 full flowering cycles as long as they don't die during flower to veg transition. I will be getting them THC tested EVERY SINGLE flower cycle to prove without a doubt the "maximum maturity" possible of a weed plant re-veg flower cycling, just like how we know by the 5th or 6th successive clone, the DNA will deteriorate and the grow will be stunted or a lesser bud high and yield. God I fucking ramble when I'm bored and tipsy. ----- Day 40 ----- Fed at 1350ppm 6.3pH 23L Plants are doing great. **Update** Little fun video from mid light cycle. Roughly 20-25 days left. Will finish at 30% amber 70% cloudy and will cut branch by branch as they are done, not in a rush to do 1 single cut and will let them survive to re-veg easier and less stressful. ----- Day 41 ----- Easy day. Here's some pics. Just basically have to watch the grass grow today. ----- Day 42 ----- Big photo day, used ruler for most shots. End of beginning of bulk, big bulk starts tomorrow. Could probably feed late night tonight but I'm going to just give 500-750 ml of water depending on roots needs before lights off. Tomorrow will be a big feed for first day of week 7. Tropicanna Glookies tips on back right are beginning to darken and become purple. I am hoping this whole plant turns purple in last 2-3 weeks. We will see. **Update** Back right plant is starting to turn purple and FAST. Pretty awesome.
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Really nice structure, which makes it easy to trim. The smell is delicious, will update once I try it.
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Welcome to my MilkyWay F1 Auto Diary, Untopped VS topped. Results are in. Days 71-82 ripening 0-13 week 11&12 Went well. She did bulk up a tad. But not much. They spent most their lives under a 100w. But, the bud is really dense all over. No larf, at all. Its a really good quality of bud I'm getting from both phenos. As far as ToppedVsUntopped well, that result is in. With a seeds used from the same pack (same parent) making true F1s as they need to be from the same batch. It why we all got different phenos, and those who ran more than 1, from their seeds, the phenos are very close. One of mine had more of a fade and looks more purple. Both smell very lovely & fruity. Nice trichome production with very dense but, rather small buds if I do say so. But the grade itself is very high. (As grade is not rated on size) overall both turned out very similar. Even fade wise, they've both developed a lovely colour finishing under high co2 environment with the SE5000 really has brought out a lot of fade i normally do not get. look at the start. It was only a few days under this light and the past 14 days they've both popped. I will also say. A lot of their life was spent under a 12-12 (3/5s of flowering). Topped VS Untopped pheno 2 & 1 Are very similar as I've stated this area will be filt in with harvest comments. Bud smell. How the dry went. And after a weeks cure. I'll rate it. So watch this space. These 2 phenos have been on just water for 10 days. I did a quick run off test. Got back 145ppm my tap is 110. So, they're good to go. Trichome wise. 95% cloudy 30-35% amber. (Hard to see, I'll try get pics with my scope) but, as you see. Both are fully ripened. Anymore and its just bud deg. Both plants leaves are showing end of life. Some are dying. (I'VE BEEN WATCHING THESE LEAVES AND SEEN THEY'VE BEEN DEAINED, ITS NOT BR) Lights The SE5000 was used for the Ripening phase. With high temps and co2 i pushed my boundaries and got a lovely fade reaction from doing so. How I know its down to this light as I've put my Runtz under it. And as soon as I did. It developed fade. My Frosted G even started getting light purple on its sides. The temp in tent has been pushed to 31-33c (that's not leaf temp as I've fans blowing on my plants, and that lowers surface temps by a few degrees.) They've been on 17hrs of high powered light. At 25-30cm id no choice. My temps are mad high this time of year. Harvested Both plants are been pult they're getting their last few hrs. You'll then see the last few pics in a few hrs. I'll get bud shots later, smoke reviews and then to be fair. I'll then mark it by the GD rating system. As I do with all my strains. (So I've 2-3 wk delay in my diaries as they're Harvested, mostly) both plants I'll try push them as far as I can through the drying process whole. But, as I'm dealing with high temps. Lower RH and a fastercl dry is pref to a longer dry in hot conditions might not make sense, but 30+ hot weather harvests, I've got this down. Mind you only this round all my other hot harvests some took a few weeks to rid the hay smell. This avoids it and locks in potency. Most of the drying is done by leaving the plant in the substrate just before the plant goes for itself for fluids. 4-5 day dry as opposed to 5-6 day dry with weed that loses half its stenght. (dry harvesting look it up) Thanks to James from RQS, although I know everyone and their sister got the offer for these seeds I am defo going to be trying more from RQS, if it's buying. I'll get round to it, and depending on the quality of smoke it might be soon. If its a real nice auto, I'd love to try a fem of theirs for my winter crop in October. But, that'll depend. I've lots I want to buy & try.. and when favs are found. I'll invest. I would like to thank everybody for the activity this diary has gotten. Its possibly one of my most active diaries I've done without a harvest. And that's in no short means down to all the views and likes from you guys. And for sure I will fully complete it, with results on the smoke Quality from both phenos, if it varies, but, results thus far, structure wise they're shockingly similar. Scary so. Topping has very little affect to the structure. She grew a main cola. But both phenos, turned puples I will say the topped one was a more troublesome plant. Maybe that had a role onin its morphology. And maybe it'll affect the bud also. The topped was more demanding nutrient wise, and drank more. Maybe to support a more even bud load. (I've yet to do a through inspection, but on the VS front, it's kinda in the air about quality, structure wise, it had very little difference. Look for yourself at the heights are 3-4cm dif) lots still to come. And I'll update it soon with more results. Again, thanks so much for the support, likes, comments and how active it is, an unfinished diary moving to my home page. 1st for me. So thank you. Also to my light sponsors who played a part in this grow. Although both phenos owe their bud quality to 2 x 100 watts SF-1000 (SE5000 was used for ripening lovely fade) and I used a P1000, they shared even light distribution in the end for the most part. So, thanks to Bella for the upgrade. I'm sure when I run an RQS strain again, this time I'll know only have the fade to show, but the bud size too. Thanks again my Friends. Updates pending as of 6th June. Edit June 7th Both plants are hung whole and drying 24hrs. I don't like how fast they're moving. The buds are already soft. Should still be hard at this stage only 30hrs in. They'll harden up in the cure no doubt. Let's just hope they don't shrink too much. Will give daily updates
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D35: gave her 30 grams of organic granular phosphorous grains (6-16-0) and gave her a thorough watering untill it reached runoff. D37: Days were with intense sunlight and a lot of wind. Gave her another good watering and 30g of organic granular potassium grains (2-0-20). Given that the days are all sunny the last days and they're bound to stay that way, I think I'll water her every 2 days as she's using a lot of water these days and that way the granular feeder gets dissolved more quickly into the soil. D40: She's looking absolutely great. Really enjoying the sunshine and warm weather of the past week (she did get some really minor sunburn spots on +-4 fan leaves, but she did't seem stunted by it). She keeps on growing every day and she has a lot of promising tops. The LST has been working out really well! I'm doing my best trying to tuck away as many leaves blocking the sunlight from the bud sites, but there's starting to get a lot of them so I don't really know what I should do. Should I trim the ones that are in the way of the bud sites and that I can't really tuck away or should I leave them on for photosynthesis? The flowers are also really developing and she's really starting to give a good smell. Looking forward to the following days/weeks! D42: I watered her again, around 3l, and added another 20g of potassium grains. That's going to be the final amount of fertilizer she's getting. First gave her 1,5l of plain tap water and then another 1,5l which was 50% tap water and 50% sparkling water, mixed with a teaspoon of molasse. The overall nutrient scheme was thus: * D20: 25g organic granular fertilizer (6-3-3) * D28: 35g organic granular fertilizer (6-3-3) * D35: 30g organic granular phosphorous grains (bone meal) (6-16-0) * D37: 30g of organic potassium grains (2-0-20) * D42: 20g of organic potassium grains (2-0-20)
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Because of the wind some branches were broken. Fixed with bamboos .
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Week Three (Day 14 to Day 21) Their height is between 12 and 17 inches. Explosive growth in Day 14 through Day 21. Required careful light management. Some are growing approximately 1 inch per day. We put stakes in the containers to support future growth. OG Kush autoflower doesn't like to be topped or fimmed. Autoflowers in general prefer no topping or transplanting. The stakes will allow us to support the plant and side branches. Plants continue on their Feed / Feed / Water regime. During week three they received one feeding of 750 ppm at 6.3 pH and a second feeding of 950 ppm at 6.1 pH. Plants have shown no sign of nutrient burn or stress. The 950 ppm feeding probably could have gone a bit higher like 1050 or 1150. The side branching is excellent. Highly recommend adding side lights to tents as they help develop side branching. It's all about lumens. Middle of the week some cannabis plants began to develop some pistils.
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We had a great week so far we planted 4 autoflowers in 5 gallon fabric pots and they all popped. Purple Lemonade from Fastbuds. Strawberry Cheescake from Seedsman. BlackBerry Kush Auto from Dutch Passion And Mexican Airlines By Fastbuds! We will be making a new grow diary for them all!
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Hello growmies, welcome to week 1! 🍪 💜 It's a beautiful baby! 😍 Perfect as can be, even more perfect! 😌 Thanks @Green_Buzz_Nutrients for sponsoring my grow, those products really do their job! 💚 If you want to give them a try, there's a generous discount code in my setup description. ⬇️ Thanks @SensiSeeds for the opportunity, let's do this!! 🚀 💚 🖤 _______________________________________________________________________________________ Purple Cookie Kush Feminized Seeds [Girl Scout Cookies x Purple Kush] Purple Cookie Kush Feminized seeds come from two well-known strains, Girl Scout Cookies and Purple Kush. The 60% indica / 40% sativa heritage leads to a well-balanced hybrid flower. Flavours range from grapes to sandalwood, and the terpene profile is a concoction of many complimentary aromas. Purple Cookie Kush Feminized is a short plant with good yields. Bud formation is dense, similar to many Kush strains. About Purple Cookie Kush Feminized Purple Cookie Kush Feminized takes the hottest GSC genetics and mashes them with a Purple Kush cultivar that was hand chosen for this project. No corners were cut in creating and selecting the right breeding stock for this fantastic strain. The result is a well-balanced hybrid that retains key qualities from its lineage. The Purple Kush parent of Purple Cookie Kush Feminized has a lot to contribute, as evidenced by the plant morphology. The compact nature and sturdy branching can be attributed to those indica-dominant genetics. Another area that the indica influence is evident is in the terpene profile, which includes scents of spicy hashish and earthiness. GSC contributes selected indica traits to Purple Cookie Kush Feminized, but the sativa side of the genes also had an impact. Complex, fruity expressions are detectable in both the mouth and nose of this strain. Before harvesting, during the last few weeks of flowering, growers will notice pleasant scents with floral notes lingering in the garden area. Growth pattern of Purple Cookie Kush Feminized Purple Cookie Kush Feminized seeds grow into a plant that represents in appearance both sativa and indica inheritance. Because this is a feminized strain, growers will not need to sex the plants at the early stages of flower and can accurately anticipate yields knowing that all plants will be flower-producing. Purple Cookie Kush Feminized has sturdy branches, similar to its GSC parent. The strong branches can support the weight of flower growth through harvest. The plant itself is stocky with a compact stature. This is attributed more to the Purple Kush influence. Due to the lower profile and many branches, defoliation is beneficial at various stages of growth. Indoor growers with a controlled climate report final heights in the 120 - 140 cm range. Purple Cookie Kush Feminized finishes flowering in a quick 50-60 day window, which is a distinctly indica quality. Outdoor growers in temperate / Mediterranean climates have seen plants reach over 160 cm with ideal weather. The bud formation of Purple Cookie Kush Feminized is similar to the popular Kush structure. Flowers are dense and compact. The buds are a mixture of swollen, trichome-covered bracts with dark forest-green foliage below. During the last weeks of flowering, the GSC influence adds purple hues to the vegetation. Purple Cookie Kush Feminized is a solid-performing, easy-to-maintain plant with good yields. It is not difficult to achieve the optimal indoor climate, and yields of 425 - 475 grams per m² are possible in these conditions. The ideal outdoor environment will have moderately warm weather and a small percentage of rain within the growing season. Growers in those regions have reported yields reaching 550 grams per plant, sometimes even more! Common plant training techniques are not crucial to the success of this robust, sturdy plant, but some growers looking to maximize yields will use them. Techniques that have been used with great success in canopy control include SOG, SCROG, Supercropping, and Lollipopping. Purple Cookie Kush Feminized handles them all without skipping a beat. Effects, taste and smell of Purple Cookie Kush Feminized The effects of Purple Cookie Kush Feminized usher in a more relaxed and easy-going day than most. It has the benefit of merging both indica and sativa attributes. Euphoric and uplifting effects are associated with sativa cultivars, and these effects are precisely how the Purple Cookie Kush Feminized experience begins. Blissfully distracted from the fast-paced world, thoughts shift to creative endeavours and inspirational goals. As these feelings are front and centre, a mild buzz begins radiating from the inner core. Soon, the indica-leaning effects are felt. Effects turn towards the loosening of tense muscles, the easing of minor aches, and an embracing full-body stone. The flavour profile of Purple Cookie Kush Feminized is almost like a full-course meal. The pairing of flavours is unique and somehow works perfectly. The taste of fresh peeled grapes sits well with the coffee and caramel elements. The indica genetics once again show their dominance with undertones of earthiness and spicy sandalwood to complete the flavour profile. Purple Cookie Kush Feminized has an unmistakably loud grape smell. This trait is not commonly seen in cannabis, but it is fully displayed with this strain. The remainder of the terpene profile is what many would consider the finer aromatic qualities of the GSC strain. Scents of spicy hashish float through the air, complementing the grape aroma whenever the jar is opened. Background notes of earth and sandalwood add another enjoyable layer to the terpene profile. https://sensiseeds.com/en/research/purple-cookie-kush-feminized?sqr=purple%20cookie _______________________________________________________________________________________ Setup: 140x70x200 cm Spiderfarmer tent 2x Monkey 16W fans (not oscillating) 1x Secret Jardin 30W 1x box fan 50W oscillating (on lowest level) LED Full Spectrum 320W AGLEX AGL-320W-MA 5,6 kg foldable, dimmable 864 pieces Samsung LH301H 864umol/s 2,7umol/J full spectrum white + RED 660nm + IR 740nm wavelength range 380-780nm covering 3x4ft Green Buzz Nutrients https://greenbuzzliquids.com/ ❗ Use code GD42025 for generous 25% discount (for orders of minimum 75€) Biobizz Lightmix + coco + wormcastings + perlite Carbon Active Granulate Filter 125/360 cm³/h PrimaKlima exhaust EC 125-400/240 cm³/h
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Old photos but i want it here with me...🍃🍃🍃
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я давольно их ростом , они активно набирают тело, сняла несколько огромных листов с Ниагары растение отреагировала без стресса рок машин сделали лст ниагара оставили рости свободно, так как коллы пробиваются активно через листву самостоятельно
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Finally got my blue dream from seedsman. Winner of the contest seeds of knowledge Here it is finally growing this beautiful lady I gotta say this one was almost broken, it arrived very well but since it was hidden as requested when I open the box with a razor to take out the seeds Packs my bad accidentally cut a tiny side of the seed Shell which I noticed and place into germination and now she is here with us and we are very happy to welcome her to our family Day 1 Tuesday Place into germination Fully at dark until next morning from 8AM Started to get light since she is a photoperiod At the end of the Day went and hid it in a box very well so its dark Day 2 Same process took her out and start again sunny Day for her indoors of course Day 3 Thursday finally got her showing its cotyledons doing the same process :3 And im guessing it goes with the sun At the end of the Day got to give her enough darkness she is a feminized seeds which I have to make her flower after idk some time so I will try and see how much she can grow and get STRESS for yield and potency, thanks a lot for your support Happy Friday btw 👽🌱 **** DAY 5 My girl is a monster and needs to recover Taproot was coming out of peatmoss and I didnt even notice so had to transplant to a Bigger pot soon, since she is not an auto she is way too fast cuz taproot was out in the bottom so I had to take the net out of the Peat moss so roots van expand comfortably but accidentally broke the tiny edge while sliding with lil to no pressure and it sucks but it was stuck and it was either that or just plant it like that but well probably I should have left her be but anyways she is young I think she will develop more since she is in a better soil mix now than just Peat moss, wish me luck cuz I really hope she is better and gets to grow huge, we will see at the process right This is whats all about Lets do our best tho We will! Enjoy & happy growing everyone ☺️
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Ja die Manderin Cream wächst jetzt am Tag mindestens 5 cm. Es haben sich sehr viele Blüten gebildet. Habe jetzt den Ec wert auf 1200. Die Pflanze trinkt am Tag 0,9 Lieter und ich fülle den Tank jeden Tag mit ca. einen Lieter auf mit einen Ec wert von 1087. Erhöhung von B52 und Big bud und Tasty terp. Habe noch keinerlei erfahrungen mit Automatic und wusste nur , das sie in der Blütephase kein stress vertragen.. Deshalb habe ich die Entlaubung nicht gemacht.. Werde 3 wochen vor der Ernte etwas entlauben... Aber ich muss mich erstmal genauer mit der Blütezeit befassen.. oder es genauer im Blick behalten durch vergleiche hier im netz. Habe hier Züchter gesehen mit der cream Manderin die 14 wochen Blütezeit hatten.. oder Sie so lange Blühen ließen..und nicht wie angegeben 9 wochen und fertig... Aber die ergebnisse wahren echt Top bei den anderen .. schauen wir mal...