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11/01/21. inicio de semana riego con giga grow y forza cilicia 13/01/21 no se aprecia bien en la foto haha pero ya esta mostrando pequeños pistilos , se rego con nutrientes rootz.mx gigagrow, forza silicia , y magna flor. 2ml por litro 17/01/21. cierre de semana riegos diario con 0.25lt esta pequeña comenso a mostrar señales de preflor ya con su primer semana 12 x 12
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I just took down the rest of the Grape Deebo harvested last week, this is the red Deebo with green stems. The other one looks like it might have another week. I have taken off one stem as a control So enjoy some bud pr0n.
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🌸 Week 8 Flower – The Trichome Symphony Begins 🌸 Eternity Grow Cup This week… it’s all about the frost. ❄️ We are diving deep into the universe of trichomes, those magical crystal-like structures that define potency, aroma, and visual beauty. Each pheno this week is presented with its own dedicated video — so everyone can witness the uniqueness and evolution of these genetics firsthand. The photos? Focused close and true on the trichomes and their stalks, the very essence of the plant’s protective and expressive language. 💎 What Are Trichomes? Trichomes are tiny resin glands that cover the surface of cannabis flowers and sugar leaves. They’re responsible for producing and storing cannabinoids (like THC and CBD), terpenes, and flavonoids — the compounds that create the plant’s effects, scents, and flavors. They act as the plant’s natural defense — from UV rays, pests, and environmental stress — and in return, they gift us with beauty, medicine, and art. Why So Many Trichomes Here? This room has turned into a crystal forest thanks to a harmonious mix of tech, care, and nature: 🔹 Spectrum Tunings: Using the TrolMaster system, we’ve dialed in a spectrum rich in reds, far-reds, and UV at precise times to stimulate trichome production. The plants are responding in full. 🔹 Lighting: The under-canopy power of the ICL 300s, combined with the canopy-level intensity of the Model 1s, is creating full-spectrum saturation from top to bottom. Buds are stacked, frosty, and glowing from every angle. 🔹 Nutrition Synergy: The tag-team of Aptus Holland and Plagron has been flawless. The clean base, balanced micro and macro elements, and biostimulants have driven these girls into full expression mode. You can see the nutrition working in every crystal. 🌿 Where Are We Now? We’re likely one week to ten days from harvest, but of course we’ll follow the plants’ signals. They’re still swelling and building — it’s the final stretch, and they’re sprinting. Nerdy Note: Trichomes can be bulbous, capitate-sessile, or capitate-stalked — and in this run, the capitate-stalked ones are standing tall and loaded. Expect a full cannabinoid and terpene profile when it’s time for analysis.( bro talk not lab hihihihi) 🌟 Let’s take a moment to recognize that we’re witnessing the peak of this cycle. This is living art, frozen in time by a camera lens but alive in scent and energy. This Week’s Feeding Program To support this explosive trichome production in Week 8 Flower, we’re feeding with precision and purpose. Every drop counts now, and here’s the clean, efficient mix we’re running: • Aptus Holland – Regulator: 0.15 ml/L • Aptus Holland – System Clean: 0.25 ml/L • Aptus Holland – RO Water Condition: 0.8 ml/L • Aptus Holland – All-In-One Liquid: 1.25 ml/L • Plagron – Green Sensation: 1 ml/L • pH set at 6.2 💧 We’re keeping it clean, clear, and consistent. No extra PK boosters or unnecessary additives. Just smart nutrition, tuned spectrum, and stable conditions to let the plants express themselves naturally. The synergy between Aptus Holland’s Clean Program and Plagron’s Green Sensation is clearly showing in every frosty bud. This week, we’ve fine-tuned the spectrum to push the plants into full resin-production mode. I’ve reduced the white light intensity to 40% while keeping the reds and UVs running at 100%. This shift focuses energy on the wavelengths that directly stimulate secondary metabolite production—especially trichomes. Red light enhances flower development and density, while UV exposure encourages plants to produce protective compounds, like cannabinoids and terpenes, as a natural defense. This balance between lower photosynthetic pressure and high-spectrum stimulation is helping the girls finish strong, frosty, and full of character. 🙏 Massive thanks to all sponsors, followers, friends, and growers in the community. To the ones competing, to the ones just watching — THANK YOU. This is almost the end of the road, and every diary, every plant, every effort deserves respect. 💬 Don’t forget to follow the full 4K experience on YouTube, and for behind-the-scenes action and updates, join us on Instagram. With Grower’s Love, DD 🌱 Genetics - Runtz https://www.zamnesia.com/6000-zamnesia-seeds-runtz-feminized.html Nutrients - Plagron https://plagron.com/en/hobby - Aptus Holland https://aptus-holland.com/ Controls - Trol Master https://www.trolmaster.eu/ LED - https://www.futureofgrow.com/en LED - https://www.thinkgrowled.com Soil - https://www.promixgardening.com/en Germination - Cannakan https://cannakan.com/?srsltid=AfmBOopXr-inLXajXu3QFgKXCXXos4F1oEvScjMKIB5MR5dk8-GJ-F49 DOGDOCTOR 15% off Smoking Papers - https://ziggioriginal.com/ Terpene saver - https://grovebags.com/ As always thank you all for stopping by, for the love and for it all , this journey of mine wold just not be the same without you guys, the love and support is very much appreciloved and i fell honored with you all in my life With true love comes happiness Always believe in your self and always do things expecting nothing and with an open heart , be a giver and the universe will give back to you in ways you could not even imagine so As always, this is shared for educational purposes, aiming to spread understanding and appreciation for this plant. The journey with nature is one of discovery, creativity, and respect. Let’s celebrate it responsibly and continue to learn and grow together! Growers Love To you All 💚 #EternityGrowCup #RuntzHunt #GrowersLove #CannabisCommunity #AptusHolland #ProMixSoil #TrolMaster #Zamnesia #Plagron #ZiggiPapers #Grovebags
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Auto moon rock is just about done. She has been on ph water for a few days now. This was a interesting perlite grow. I might do another in a fabric potter to further embark on my experiment. The next update will be the harvest. Thank you Medic Grow, and Divine Seeds. 🤜🏻🤛🏻🌱🌱🌱 Thank you grow diaries community for the 👇likes👇, follows, comments, and subscriptions on my YouTube channel👇. ❄️🌱🍻 Happy Growing 🌱🌱🌱 https://youtube.com/channel/UCAhN7yRzWLpcaRHhMIQ7X4g
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2024-06-06 Finally Weather turned to sunny and warm So i placed the Outdoors 2 days ago. they are quite stressed because of the changed conditions, but ia sure they will look fine soon i kinda under watered them the last 10 days and i fertilised them, so not enough water and fertiliser- they are burned. shit happens iam sorry Girls. next update in a few days because this pne is 11 days from the last, big Progress on the plants, as they already show good Flowers. Fatso GMO F1 Auto, a feminized hybrid strain, emerges from the crossbreeding of two autoflowering varieties: Fatso Auto and Cotton Candy Auto. This California-derived cultivar leans slightly towards sativa, offering growers a straightforward cultivation experience coupled with impressive yields, robust THC levels, and a delightful palate featuring sweet, candy, and fuel undertones. Thriving both indoors and outdoors, Fatso GMO F1 Auto exhibits above-average resistance to mold, while still benefiting from adequate ventilation, particularly in environments with higher humidity levels. Its exceptional resistance to pests and pathogens ensures hassle-free cultivation. While indoor plants maintain a compact stature of around 100cm or less, outdoor specimens can stretch a bit taller, reaching heights of up to 130cm when grown in open ground. Completing its entire lifecycle within a maximum of 75 days from germination to harvest, Fatso GMO F1 Auto delivers yields considered average yet impressive for an autoflowering strain. The combination of high resin production and elevated terpene levels renders it an excellent choice for cannabis extract production. Its terpene profile presents a sweet and funky aroma with savory hints of Skunk complemented by pine and floral notes. On the palate, it delights with flavors reminiscent of sweet candy underscored by subtle fuel undertones. With THC levels reaching a high of 24% and minimal CBD content, Fatso GMO F1 Auto delivers a balanced and uplifting effect, appealing to enthusiasts seeking a satisfying and harmonious experience.
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Tag 28: getoppt bei 5 Nodien + zeigt Vorblüte.
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Skunk apple runtz both are still short and stockie. They look exactly the same I'm surprised being some random seeds I made. I hope they end up smelling like skunk Last grow I overwatered and had to toss them because growth got stunted and a bunch if fungus knats got to the soil. This time I'm trying promix potting soil wish I had tried promix hp but the store close by isn't a hudro store and that's what they had. So this time I'm being very cautious with the watering I'm only useing a spray bottle I'm currently giving 45 spray per solo cup every few days when it dries out. This promix soil seems to hold water decent so the 45 spray there is 0 water coming out the bottom the cup yet. Here soon I think I'm going to double the amount of spray to 90 and start letting the soil get dry dry before watering again. Probably will hold off on any nutes quite yet. I'm going from 24/0 to 20/4 light schedule this week. There getting to the point they won't strech as much is 4 hrs of darkness and I'm rasing the light intensity a little it's been around 150 I'm upping it to around 175. Most likely by the end of the week I'll probably be pushing 200 or close. Hopefully I can get them into the big tent soon At this stage I like to alternate having the fan blowing on them I feel it gives them time to recover and get stronger instead of wind stress. Also every few days I will turn the plants so they are facing away from the light making them grow back towards the light I fell it makes them stronger
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What a beautiful strain ❤️ the final weeks such a frosty buds. Didn't grew so tall because of the low stress training but grew very dense and thick 💪 So happy with them.
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La alegria que se palpita es mucha! Siempre soñe con tener cogollos oscuros y esta es la primera vez! Es notable la diferencia entre la planta fertilizada con namaste y la de feeding, aunque con este solo utilize el Grow y el Booster. Esta ultima tiene un aroma mas plano, sutil, pero gana en volumen. En cambio con la que utilize namaste destaca mas la precencia de ese aroma como a frutos del bosque, dulce y terroso. A comienzos de pre flora aparecieron unos gusanos verdes que se multiplican muy rápido. La mayoria la elimine a mano, pero lo ideal es utilizar jabon potasico + Aceite de neem para eliminarlos inmediatamente.
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Hey now, was a pretty good week for the Sour D, I didn't really make any changes as far as the nutes, still at EC of 1.6, with water from my dehumidifier, then cal mag, then maxi bloom powder, then liquid kool bloom. Only real issue I had this week was on day 58 I noticed her leaning a little bit, and I went to move her pot, and she almost toppled over. It really scared the crap out of me, so that is why you now see all the wire tires wrapped around her base. Definitely something I will be more mindful of in the future. Still dealing with high temps and humidity, but my dehumidifier has been a real Beast. I will also add that when I open that tent, the smell of Diesel Fuel, and Lemons smack me in the face like a 2x4. I have never smelled anything that pungent before. I am amazed at how well my Terra bloom carbon filter is doing, although I am sure it helps I have an 8x24" inch filter and Infinity T8 exhaust running on the lowest possible setting in my tiny little tent. Really hoping for some thick and sticky flowers! Thanks for checking me out and and Blaze On....
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Vandaag 8 september is week 8 gestart en ze doet het geweldig 👌🏼 De bloemen worden er steeds meer en dikker en ze schiet steeds hoger in de lucht. De onderste zijtak is de hoofdstam al voorbij gegroeid in lengte. De luchtvochtigheid schommelt tussen de 50 en 70% en ik krijg deze niet lager. Ik heb geen zin om de verwarming aan te zetten in huis. Vanaf morgen zal ze verwend worden met de green sensation en terra bloom van Plagron. Ik zal gedurende de week weer foto's uploaden. Dag 54: dark-winged fungus gnats geconstateerd. Ik heb haar meteen behandeld met kaneelwater en heb de aarde bedekt met zand zodat ze niet meer gaan nestelen. (Zie filmpje) Ik hoop dat ik er op tijd bij ben geweest en er niet te veel larven in de grond zitten die de wortels aantasten. Dag 55: geen vliegen meer gezien. Halleluja To be continued....🎍
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Day 28 smell is geting stronger frost is building very large bud growing very fast will most likely be a heavy yield handling the higher temperatures
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3rd w/ Flower: Buds Action and Everything is Supreme and Savory at thier 3rd week of Flower! 3rd Week of Flower: 3rd Flower Feed of #HumboldtCountysOwn and the Ladies Love the Bloom portion of Nutrients! They're Stacking Up Great and Filling Out thier Mighty Branches with Giant Gorgeous Budz! 5 Confirmed Females!!! It's been a few days since I gave the Ladies thier 3rd Feed of #HumboldtCountysOwn Nutrients and they look Fantastically Divine!!! We'll definitely Grow back to everything here soon! 11th w/ Veg and Flowers Update #Pre-Sexed🚺 #SuperCropped #Defoliated #Lollipoped Good Day and Happy Growing Everyone! These Ladies were Growing into thier 11th Week of Veg and Looking Totally Tight and Phenomenally *Femed* from the Right! #Pre-Sexed 4/9/21 #Opium/#PabloEscobar *Fems* breed by Team #DivineSeeds #DivineSeedsSquad #DivineSeedsBreedingCompany and #SuperCropping continued! I'm Very Excited and Extremely Gracious!!! Heck Yeah Growmies and Growmets!!! Check Out these Confirmed Females with thier Wild Pistol Hairs popping and I'm still Training and Widening them Out with #SuperCropping Everything looks Expanded and Growing Great! After #SuperCropping the plant will Grow Bushier, Produce More Buds, and possibly even Produce More THC! This is how the plant naturally responses to danger and protects itself! Growers take advantage of this technique to get Bigger Yields and More Potent Buds than would be produced otherwise! Getting Trained out into thier 11th Week of Veg and Looking Mighty Fine!!! Thier getting Humongous and Hearty in thier 10 gallon Grow Bag from Broski #www.as420.ca These Cannabis plants are Camping out in the Closet for a week or so! Lol This is my 2nd run using the Osree.Light QB1000w and Everything is Mesmerizing!!! My #Opium and #PabloEscobar *Fems* from #DivineSeeds Regs: SalamiLegF3's×2 and FireAlienRomulan look$ Outstandingly Awesome and Growing Up Phenomenally Fine into thier 11th week of Veg in our 2- 10 gallon The Grow Bags from Broski #www.as420.ca and also 2- 5 gallons as Well! Our others are Super and Breed by #thehumancannabiniod #AlienBloodGenetix #TNBNaturals #Foop Yo!!! Thanks Again for All the Love and Support my fellow Growmies and Growmets!!! These Magnificent and Magical Ladies were Growing in our 48×24×60 ViparSpectra Official Club 🌿 ®️ Grow Tent and under our #Osree QB1000w and #GrowStarStore Kokokala QB1000w and our Purple Rose Cutting×2, Aloe Vera Cutting, Maters×3, Morel Mushroom, Lavender×3, Sunflowers×5 and The 5 Brand New and Fresh Starts are Wonderful with a Huge Hint of Fantastical Fire is my #SalamiLegF3×2 by Broski #thehumancannabiniod #DankFlowGenetics #EastCoastSeedBank #FireAlienRomulan by Broski #AlienBloodGenetix my #PabloEscobar and #Opium by Team #DivineSeeds #DivineSeedsBreedingCompany We Grow with #Growatt 600w with #FoopOrangicBioSciences and #TNBNaturals The Enhancer Co2 Despersal canister and ph'd them w/ Declorinated watering w/ TNB ph Up and Down! Totally Top Quality Topz all Around! Thanks Again #GallowGlas420 #HarleyGrower #thehumancannabiniod #AlienBloodGenetix #TNBNATURALS #FoopOrangicBioSciences #www.as420.ca #divineseeds #divineseedssquad #divineseedsbreedingcompany #BioFlux Family's and Teams!!! Your Genetics are Merry Magnificent, Mega Marvelous and Mighty Medical! Love um!!! I really Can't stress enough how Thankful and Grateful I am of All of you and what you've Shared with Us! Means the World!!! It's definitely a Pleasure being able to Grow with these Phenomenal Grow Lights! Please Enjoy! BudBrothers4-Life! Cheers Famz!!! Much Props and Much Topz!💯🔥 #Osree #GrowStarStore #Growatt #TNBNaturals #TNBTeam #FoopOrangics #GrowYourOwn #Bliss HumboldtCounty'sOwn: Email: [email protected] Phone: (707) 725-4119 Toll free: (866) 872-9434 Humboldt Bottling Po Box 429 · Fortuna, CA 95540 HumboldtCounty'sOwn Website Link: https://humboldtcountysown.com/ HumboldtCounty'sOwn Instagram Link: https://instagram.com/humboldtcountysown?igshid=1qj809qkkwych https://instagram.com/osree.light?igshid=1vrsbdyhzg2h8 https://instagram.com/growstarstore?igshid=2yjn0r00r6ru https://instagram.com/divine.seeds?igshid=1r90iwe9xiwz8 https://instagram.com/thehumancannabinoid?igshid=17k159pumklkq https://www.instagram.com/alienblood_genetix_official/ https://instagram.com/as420.ca?igshid=1f116alw054wp The Grow Bags: https://www.as420
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This week has gone well again end of the upcoming week I’m gunna give them one last strip down then just let her do her thing. She’s a big girl and the smell is amazing grapefruit peels with a very sour background can’t wait to try this girl as grapefruit is one of my favourites and this girl has it all 😍
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Here we are again ready to start again, always under the sign of Zamnesia, we make our fantastic plants and we show you what we are capable of. We have 5 autoflowering strains and 5 photoperiodic ones and now we present them to you. The fourth autoflowering that we present to you is our version or rather of Zamnesia forgive me if I start to feel at home, it is the Northern Lights. Here we are talking about a classic of classics naturally in the Zamnesia version as I said above with the right ruderalis it really promises big harvests in a short time. There is great competition on this plant and I have grown some very good ones let's see what the home one is like. To explain my germination method which is a combination of experiences acquired in the field and readings of the right advisors, I have chosen to divide it into phases so whoever wants can follow them and understand better step by step. - Preparatory Phase ---- Check the average temperature in the room, humidity status to understand if it is the case to start or wait, I decided for the end of August because the temperatures start to drop towards the 22-25 degrees recommended for germination. Then another thing more or less credible depending on the sensitivity is the control of the lunar phases. I believe in it a lot, it is a method that ancient farmers used to understand when it was best to plant depending on the attraction of the moon. To make my life easier I use a simple app that advises you on the right time to plant, harvest and put in the jar (depending on the lunar phases). - Phase 1 --- Soaking in water. There are many authoritative friends who advise against this method due to the risk of drowning, but I have always been fine and I follow the rule if it opens in water the seed is almost certainly healthy and will come out of the ground 90% normally. - Phase 2 --- Opening the seed in water. As soon as the seed opens and the root comes out a little, you have to be very very careful not to leave the seed in the water open for too long. This is why there is a risk of drowning. So as soon as the root comes out, it must be planted. Do not wait for it to stretch out a lot, you can wait a little longer in the absorbent paper, but not in water. - Phase 3 --- In the meantime, while I soaked the seeds, I prepared my pots: I use small biodegradable pots (choose the ones with holes underneath for drainage). A few hours before working with the opened seeds, I moistened the soil with water adjusted to the right pH (5.8 - 6.2) and Plagron Power Roots. The small root is now open and we can make a little hole with a toothpick, widen it and insert the seed. Not too deep with the root facing downwards. From Serious Seeds we learned the dome technique: if you put a small dome of soil on the seed the water will settle on the sides avoiding overwatering problems. - Phase 4 --- The plant emerges from the soil. So far I have not put the light, now I turn it on at minimum after half a day of soil to give direction to the seedlings. The first week the light will be gradually brought from 40% to 60% to go to 70% - 75% in the remaining weeks of veg. During the first week maximum, I keep the cycle of 24 hours to avoid stretching. Be careful not to exceed the first week at least with photoperiodic plants. - Germination % --- In water 20/20 seeds have opened for good luck I'm waiting to talk when they come out of the ground but it seems that we are going towards an excellent percentage of germination..."Not too bad"... - Soil and Food --- The soil used is entirely organic in its entirety and is the Plagron Promix that will be used with the 100% organic pack provided by Zamnesia complete with all the main fertilizers for your plant buy it at the link -- https://www.zamnesia.io/it/11457-plagron-easy-pack-natural.html // Strain Description // Born from the rib of a classic, Northern Lights Automatic is a weed from the past, but with a futuristic update. This feminized version sees Northern Lights hybridized with a ruderalis to create an extra sweet variety, that all fans are sure to love. Growers can expect abundant results in just 9 weeks, from seed to harvest! - - Get a seed of this fantastic strain --- https://www.zamnesia.io/it/3324-zamnesia-seeds-northern-lights-automatica-femminizzata.html - Soil and Fertilizers entirely organic --- https://plagron.com/en - Growbox --- https://www.secretjardin.com/ - Music and sound --- I made my girls listen to 432hz frequencies and music from www.radionula.com - Z --- You can find these seeds, much more from the world of cannabis, mushrooms and an incredible series of accessories and gadgets on the reference site not only mine but of many growers ---- https://www.zamnesia.io
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Hey guys :-) She is slowly catching up and starting to develop but a little slowly 😅 . She still has 7-12 days at most. After that she has to go to the bloom tent for reasons of time 😅. It was poured twice with 0.8 l each. I will not use training because of the time. have fun and stay healthy 🙏🏻 👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼 You can buy this Nutrients at : https://shop.greenhousefeeding.com/us/ 👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼 You can buy this strain at : https://www.amsterdamgenetics.com/product/lemongrass/ Water 💧 💧💧 Osmosis water mixed with normal water (24 hours stale that the chlorine evaporates) to 0.2 EC. Add Cal / Mag to 0.4 Ec Ph with Organic Ph - to 5.8 - 6.4 MadeInGermany
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Day 50 - Day 3 - 9/2 - Moved up to 3/4 strength of Plagron today, no extras, just about 5ml of cal mag. 850ppm @ 5.8ph. - 9" tall today still Day 51 - Day 4 - 9/3 - 9.5" tall! woohoo!! - Gave 4 liters today, wash her out a bit but kept ppm same. - Runoff coming out about 1000 ppm. Day 52 - Day 5 - 9/4 - 10" Tall - Gave another 4 liters today, but added in some power buds for some fun! Day 53 - Day 6 - 9/5 - 10" tall still - Accidently added my additives before my bloom today....I mean I'm just using one additive i guess, LOL the Power Buds. Well....I'm not remaking, she can yell at me if she doesn't like it LOL - Still giving 3/4 strength at about 850 ppm Day 54 - Day 7 - 9/6 - 10.5" - Went a little under today, gave only about 710 ppm at 6.1 ph. 4 liters. - Noticed a couple of tips today, will bring her back down, probably go back to 1/2 strength over the next few feedings. - Still on 5ml of cal mag. Day 55 - Day 8 - 9/7 - Lowered her today, Gave about 13ml of bloom, no additives. 15ml/gal is 3/4 strength btw LOL. 660ppm @ 5.8ph. - First runoff was in the 900s, so gave full 4 liters to lower a bit, but only made it to the 800s. - Went ahead and just made a small cal mag rinse of about 250ppm and a bit of SLF real quick to bring her ppm down some more. Gave her 2 liters. Got her to 720ppm @ 5.7ph runoff. - 10.5" - Will go to normal feed tomorrow at 1/2 strength (10ml/gal). Day 56 - Day 9 - 9/8 - IT'S MY 24TH ANIVERARY TODAY!!! 24 years, 2 beautiful boy that are all grown up now, and 12 wonderful cats. It's been an amazing journey! - Week 2 of Flower starts today! - 11" tall - Normal feed, but at 1/2 strength now, about 636 ppm @ 6.0 ph. Added some power buds too today. Gave 2 liters. - Runoff was 700ppm @ 6.1. Perfect! - Think I found her sweet spot, 1/2 strength at about 650 ppm for now....at least till next week LOL **Happy Anniversary, Babe! Well, she started to hold on to some salts after her flip into flower. She liked that small flush I gave. I will keep her low on the ppm side. She'll be dropping that cal mag soon too! Don't want to forget that, I forgot to drop it in Trillianz and got some orange leaves. I swear, I have to rely on Alexa to remind me of EVERYTHING! Maybe I smoke too much.... Slushie is gorgeous! Loving those bushy leaves and the cats are too! Nice pretty color too. She should start stretching more soon. Can't wait.
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retrospective: they both died of overwatering or lack of oxigen due to an owner thats thought it will be easy. put them under 15min/15min WET/DRY cycle they day they reached the floor of the pot. once while changing the water they were off for 1+hours, which may have hurt them severly, rootcolor never was the same after that from white to gray around these days..