Fattening week !! Alternating water/nutes irrigations... Gave the plant Top Bud, 2 times this week, using 0.5ml/l each one, but switching BIG ONE AND TOP BUD so: / -WATER- / -BIG ONE- + -TOP BLOOM- + -TOP CANDY- / -WATER- / -TOP BUD- + -TOP BLOOM- + -TOP CANDY- / --------------- Seems like @growdiaries did not add Top Bud to the database..So i let you the description below.. Top Bud : is a fattening fertilizer for the flowering stage. It maximum concentration of phosphorus and potassium and its absence of nitrates make it an ideal fertilizer for fatterning, while respecting the good taste of the crop. It is also rich in amino acids that benefit the development of flowers. Dilute at the rate of: 0.5-1ml per 1L of water once a week. Apt to: Its use in hydroponic substrate and coconut fiber. --------------

Parece que el frio que no nos ayudo en el vegetativo vino bien para la flora. Aunque de por si esta cepa es generosa en resina, con un olor a pino que te dan ganas de perderte en el bosque.

Guys seventh week of flowering ended, hopefully 2 still missing! I can't wait to taste these buds, now I also dream of them at night haha

Ai Gude Growmies es wird langsam richtig frostig auf den Buds❄️🌌 Seit Blüte Tag 50 überschritten wurde sehe ich täglich wie die Buds Immer mehr Trichome produzieren und Gewicht!❄️❄️❄️ Mimosa die wie beim vorherigen Grow etwas länger brauchen wird nur dieser Klon entwickelt wahrscheinlich wegen Phosphor Mangel zu diesen bunten Spektakel. Aber die Mutter Pflanze wo jetzt davor in die Blüte kam war schon ziemlich groß und musste diesen Klon im aktuellen grow auch Reveggen und trotzdem hat er Größere und schönere Buds entwickelt! Im bekannten Kreis sagen sie auch man meint es wären 2 verschiedene Strains und keine Klone. Habe die White Widow XXL ordentlich entlaubt da ich etwas nachlässig war haben sich an 3 stellen Mehltau niedergelassen. Ich komme nie über 45% LF Nachts eher so 38-42% im Durchschnitt ,Tags über sogar 30-35% LF. Mehltau infiziert waren sie alle leider aber hatte ihn erfolgreich behandelt jetzt am Ende der Blüte entferne ich die Blätter und tupfe sie vorher mit bio Mehltau EX ab. AK47 Hatte auch vorbeugend einen kahl schlag unten rum. Ein Klon aus Feminisierten Samen der sich zuerst absolutes Bastard Cannabis war entwickelte sich zu einem stämigen kompakten Indica zwerg mit schlechten Blüten/Blatt Verhältnis dafür extrem starken oldshool Skunk Duft mit Chemie,Erde und nassen Hund. Die Super Lemon Haze sollte eigentlich eine neue Mutter Pflanze werden aber wurde zu spät geschnitten die hätte ich eher austauschen. Weil man erkennt wenn die Bilder vom Start sieht das die nur 1 bis 3 finger Blätter hatte bzw nur ganz wenige mit mit mal 5 und die Buds sind diesmal auch nicht so Groß und fluffig wie davor sondern sehr kompakt und erinnert mehr an Indica von der Blüten Struktur und Festigkeit. Der Geruch ist auch mehr in Richtung Chemie/Katzenpisse was ich sehr begrüße. Nach ndl und 1 led grow und jetzt der 3 mit den selben Genetiken kann ich jetzt schon sagen dass ich Super Lemon Haze und Ak47 erstmal lange Zeit nicht mehr growen. Ich weiß nicht ob es Einbildung ist oder wirklich so das ich konstant zu jeden Durchgang bessere Ergebnisse bekam aber die Pflanzen von Serious Seeds und Green House Seeds nicht so darauf ansprach wie die Genetiken von Barney's Farm. Grade die White Widow XXL hat mich wirklich überrascht ich war anfangs enttäuscht weil die Pflanze fast wie eine reine sativa wächst in der vegi Phase die ohne toppen safe über 150cm geworden. Wenn man die mit der SLH vergleichen will habe beide lange Internodien Abstände und kaum Blätter wuchs bzw Super Blüte/Blatt Verhältnis! Nur an den Blüten der WW die extrem Kompakt und Schwer werden zeigt sich der angebliche 75% Indica Anteil mit bis zu 26% THC. Das XXL am ende hat sich der strain verdient!!! Was in den 90er WW und AK47 waren und in den 2000er Die SLH als hype Strains hat es Barneys farm geschafft für mich die WW so zu updaten Dass sie sich Aroma und Geschmack so wie Wirkung wie damals Riecht, schmeckt und kickt. Konnte mehrfach bei Bekannten das Apotheken White Widow unterschiedlicher Preise und Herkunft probieren und je nach Qualität war es OK für den Preis. Mr nice guy seeds Black Widow oder die ww Inbreed line von GHS ist auch absolut empfehlenswert wer den Hype von damals nachvollziehen möchte. Die WW von Barney's Farm will ich mit GMO mal "ersetzen" oder aus Regulären Samen Mutter Pflanzen selektieren. Die Mimosa Evo war was die Genetik angeht es neuste im Zelt und habe vorher lange recherchiert weil mir die ganzen neuen Candy Ice Dessert sweet tutti frutti breath nicht so zusagen aber ich eine Sorte wollte die bis zu30%THC erreichen kann und mit Farbe:D Mich hat damals schon Tangerine Dream absolut positiv überrascht mit Süßen Mandarine am anfang und g13 und Nevilles A5 Haze im abgang und sehr stark war die zu der Zeit. Mimosa Evo riecht hauptsächlich fruchtig nach Orange, Zitrone und Waldbeeren beim Rauchen kommt PP durch und Erde,Diesel gasig. In diesem Grow verwende ich das erste mal CANNA Terra Professional Plus Erde und Hydrokugel im Topf Boden. So wie CANNAZYM und CANNA Calmag Agent. Man sieht und riecht den Unterschied schon zum vorherigen Grow mit BioBizz All Mix Erde und BB Calmag. Ich möchte die Erde von Canna wiederverwen weshalb ich mir CANNAZYM holte. Bin vorsichtig bei Zusätze Dünger wie z.b Wurzel Stimmulator hatte bis her nie Probleme im wurzel Bereich. MONO Präparate sind absolut brauchbar wenn man gezielt Mangel Erscheinungen bekämpfen will. Habe vor 21 angefangen zu Growen mal größer mal kleiner aber konstant mit kleinen Pausen seitdem dünge ich Mineralisch mit CANNA und Guano. Organisch Düngen werde ich allein deswegen schon testen wegen Geschmack und Aroma. Denke bis spätestens 22.5 sind alle rdy und Mein Grow report ist dann abgeschlossen 😍🌈🌌 *Update * muss die Leistung der Lampe drosseln sie wird einfach zu warm aber bei fast 26C° tagsüber kann ich schwer die heiße Luft austauschen obwohl die abluft in einen anderen Raum geleitet wird.

** HARVEST DAY FOR PHENO2: 09-27-2022 ** Pictures are from weeks 11~17. Flowering was a breeze, the girls were pretty much on cruise control, I only had to water and feed them every week or so. Notes of spicy orange, really pungent smell. Both are very similar in that regard, one being more spicy and the other more fruity.

Day 45 from seed and I moved thm to the new house, finally all my drying and cleaning is done 😅 Day 45 and TP1 is officially taler then all of the CS 😅 what an amazing recovering she’s doing 🙌💚 loving how great the Tropicanas from @sweetseeds are growing 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌soon I will star training this girls to a full canopy, lets see how they react to low stress and some “kirotherapy “ TP2 still amazing and so far the biggest of them all 😁😅💚🙌 Day 45 and CS3 is now the queen from the Chocolates, she took CS1 place and looks like from the 3 she will b the winner 😆 starting the low stress training and all on them soon too 😊💚 Day 45 and i change my lights to 14h lights on 5h dark 1h lights on ( this is just to avoid them changing to flower) and 4h dark again this way i save on the electric bill and they get to rest better. I only recommend doing this if you have enough ppfd in your room, this will avoid you lokking at them slipping with the ligths on 😅 trust me if you have enough ppfd they will get to a point were they will go to sleep lights on or off. Read your plants if you don’t have tools 😉💚 Day 50 Transplant to final pot , 5gallon is the final destination 😅 so far so good, supper happy with my girls roots, as i always say, take care of your roots and they will take care of your bud later on, and with them in general. Day 50 and from the Chocolates the CS3 keeps going faster then the other 2, CS2 keep making mutant leafs and CS1 shes amazing but the grow is just not as good as CS3. Day 50 and both Tropicanas are looking amazing, TP1 is completely recovered from her accident and she created an amazing nod were she was once broken, TP2 keeps on going as it should 🙌🙌🙌🙌 they are some hard litle girls this ones 😅🙌🙌🙌 Day 50 and i gave them all 3,5 L off water with ph at 6.7 EC 1.0 @545Ppms now i will give them a couple of days and then let the games begin 😅 Little battle between Topicanna Poisen from @sweetseeds vs Chocolate Skunk from @00Seeds (just for fun) TP = Tropicana Poison CS = Chocolate Skunk Light Lumatek Zeus 465W compact pro at 75% All i grow is medecine for myself, nothing to sell, dont even ask !!!! Stay safe and do it with love for the love ❤️ 🙏 💚Growers Love to you all 💚

Week 2 of flower and flourishing gave them a full Gaia green feeding after 35 day of veg I'll feed them again 35 days into flower

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So I have decided to only note when changes are made, observations are warranted, or I feel something of note has happened. I'll still do daily progressions, but the rest has already been documented and no need to create a hundred new pics showing the same. Just understand that if I say "7.1ph," or something with tested amounts that I mean I first calibrated and tested my ph pens and all units are measured for accuracy. I am learning as I go, so it would be of no benefit to report inaccurate details. 112/42 VPD and PPFD are still the same this week. 73-76F in the day and 66-68 overnight with RH set to not exceed 55% but is mostly at 45 to 50% now that winter is here. The fan is set to auto and I have 2 de-humidifiers in the tent. The PH lockout issue is still in progress but I am starting to get the soil up to snuff now. I think using the knitting needles has the most beneficial effect on the soil as it both aerates and allows the nutes to get deeper. 113/43 Defoliated today. I removed the worst of the affected fan leaves and this unfortunately only leaves sugar leaves to run photosynthesis process. Im hoping she still gets enough of everything else to grow the buds, but only time will tell. I will take new control pics for new progression on 3 other sites now. Watering Days. All feeds with nutes use either a whole ratio, or combination, of "Veg Mix" and "Bloom Mix"concentrates. These are/will be DILUTED in water until a total ppm of add-in is reached using a (Total Dissolved Solids) TDS Meter measured in PPM (parts per million). The "Veg Mix" concentrate will eventually be added-in larger, then smaller, ratios while the "Bloom Mix" concentrate will eventually replace the "Veg Mix" concentrate entirely. The ppm and ratios will be listed when I feed. Veg mix recipe is on week 3. Bloom Mix recipe is on week 5. Last feed was day 110/40 (next will be +3) I expect to continue to use 7.1ph with 650ppm of bloom mix concentrate and feed 2.5 gallons every 3 to 4 days, so I expect about 8 to 11 cups of runoff at that time as well. I have decided that I will try to add 1 ml of CaliMagic (General Hydroponics 1-0-0) per gallon of feed on each feed for a week or two to see if this can help against ph lockout of calcium since it cant be N,P, or K. Cant be N because she uses WAY less N in flower, and it cant be P or K because I am getting nute burn with the feeds I am already using... so my conclusion is that she need more micro nutes from the lockout, and since I was thinking it was Calcium in the start, I am going to try a more detailed treatment to test results against from here. Day 113/43 (last feed was day 110/40) Tested and Calibrated my ph pens. Fed 2.5 gallons of purified water (starting with 16ppm) mixed with 658ppm of 100% Bloom Mix Concentrate. Due to this soil showing a possible calcium deficit, I am starting a 1ml per gallon add-in to test on all plants using this soil, so I added 2.5ml of CaliMagic (General Hydroponics 1-0-0) to the feed then I ph balanced before feeding. The ph on this feed was balanced to 7.1. I used knitting needles to help both aerate the soil and create new water pathways for the roots. (a practice I may consider a new feeding standard for all my plants) I got ~7 cups of runoff (~11 cups last feed). Higher runoff volume was expected with the feed volume but glad to see she's taking it better now since I started knitting needles. Runoff was tested at 6.12ph and 2250ppm (5.9ph with 1860ppm last feed). Top soil tested at 6.23,6.31,6.57,6.38 for an avg of 6.372 (6.327 avg after last feed) - next feed will be 7.1ph again as I'm still liking where the ph is finally going, but rather see it closer to 6.3 or 6.4 top and bottom. I dont see any issues with the feed's data other than the possible calcium deficit and I will continue to monitor runoff ppms as I expected this to be lower with less runoff but have to consider they maybe washing out salt with the knitting needles. Next Feed should be 3 gallons of de-chlorinated tap water ph balanced to 7.1 in +4 days (117/47). I will run 650ppm and 3ml of CaliMagic (General Hydroponics 1-0-0) again. Day 117/47 (last feed was day 113/43) Tested and Calibrated my ph pens. Fed 3 gallons of de-chlorinated tap water (starting with 299ppm) mixed with 671ppm of 100% Bloom Mix Concentrate. Due to this soil showing a possible calcium deficit, I am starting a 1ml per gallon add-in to test on all plants using this soil, so I added 3.0ml of CaliMagic (General Hydroponics 1-0-0) to the feed then I ph balanced before feeding. The ph on this feed was balanced to 7.4. I used knitting needles to help both aerate the soil and create new water pathways for the roots. (a practice I may consider a new feeding standard for all my plants) I got ~20 cups of runoff (~7 cups last feed). Higher runoff volume was expected with the feed volume increase might let her go to 4 days again and 2.5 next feed. It could be a result of the knitting needle treatment when feeding. Runoff was tested at 6.10ph and 2070ppm - again thinking it could be a result of the knitting needles (6.12ph and 2250ppm last feed). Top soil tested at 6.23,6.31,6.57,6.38 for an avg of 6.372 (6.372 avg after last feed)- next feed will be 7.1ph again as I'm still liking where the ph is finally going, but rather see it closer to 6.3 or 6.4 top and bottom. I dont see any issues with the feed's data other than the possible calcium deficit and I will continue to monitor runoff ppms as I expected this to be lower with less runoff but have to consider they maybe washing out salt with the knitting needles. Next Feed should be 2.5 gallons of de-chlorinated tap water ph balanced to 7.1 in +4 days (121/51). I will run 700ppm and 2.5ml of CaliMagic (General Hydroponics 1-0-0) again.

Week 5 it is then. I had hoped on a 4 week veg period as I have been so used to autoflowers that this has become my normal. I had also forgot how much I enjoy training the ladies to work better with the l.e.d coverage and limitations of my grow room height. The HST is goi g really well with the Bruce responding with so.e nice fattening limbs and great potential mainstays. The idea is to fool the plant into thinking that each growing tip is the main-stem ( merristem) This will ensure an even distribution of all the available resources. As they progress towards flowering flip , i am trying to get each tip to the pots edge. This will allow me to tie them down to the edges and when the stretch period begins , they will grow vertically to create a ring of main buds. This allows airflow around each bud, which lessens the risk of mould and also allows lots of available light to reach the whole lengths. I did snap one limb of rhe Bruce bit it was the f.i.m so it won't be a huge loss of it doesn't repair in Time. The candy rain is doing a great job of catching up now with only 4 tips to train and plenty of light, I am hoping she catches up this week to be flipped to flower. Both of the Jealousy girls are really healthy and happy. again they are being trained fairly aggressive and are handling all I am throwing at them with twists and bends. No issues with anything so far so fingers crossed that I can flip them next update and begin the real fun of seeing the training pay off. Be safe and well Growmies. UPDATE 11/5/23 I flipped the lights to 12/12 today so will update in a weeks time on the 1st weeks stretch. Lost the snapped main I repaired on jealousy #1 but no issue as she has plenty of potential mains

Week 11 (10-4 to 16-4) 10-4 Temperature: 24.4 degrees (lights on) 21.1 degrees (lights off) Humidity: 60% (highest) 52% (lowest) No pictures. Added 10L to the reservoir, and turned it on for a couple of minutes. 11-4 Temperature: 24.4 degrees (lights on) 21 degrees (lights off) Humidity: 61% (highest) 52% (lowest) 12-4 Temperature: 25.5 degrees (lights on) 22 degrees (lights off) Humidity: 65% (highest) 57% (lowest) Turned the reservoir on for a couple of minutes. 13-4 Temperature: 26.5 degrees (lights on) 23 degrees (lights off) Humidity: 65% (highest) 56% (lowest) 14-4 Temperature: 26.4 degrees (lights on) 22.1 degrees (lights off) Humidity: 64% (highest) 45% (lowest) Turned the reservoir on for a couple of minutes. The reservoir is almost empty, there is 850 ml left. 15-4 Temperature: 24.4 degrees (lights on) 20 degrees (lights off) Humidity: 59% (highest) 49% (lowest) No pictures. 16-4 Temperature: 23.5 degrees (lights on) 19.5 degrees (lights off) Humidity: 60% (highest) 53% (lowest) Today i defoliated both plants heavily for the last time, you can say i did a method called: schwazzing. Dont know why but while i was defoliating the Chemdog smelled a little bit like soap haha. Turned on the reservoir for a couple of minutes. (Till the AutoPots are full and the valve closes) Rised the pots aswell, so the canopy is very even. I let them recover from the heavy defoliation i did, and next week i will slowly increase the light's strength. (Now still at 50% 50cm)

The wedding glue from @fastbuds is coming along amazing the colors an the trichrome production on this strain is beautiful with nice big dense nugs an the Gelato auto from @herbies is coming along starting to bud up really nice an starting to build up some frost

First week in the new Tent with the new lights. There may have been some shock going on in the beginning of the week as the plants adjusted to the new setup. I am using 2 1000W lights (165W each at the outlet) in a 2 x 4 tent by vivosun. LSD-25: Still by far my favorite. Had a few issues this week. Early on I noticed the leaves were really starting to droop. My watering cycle seems ok, I decided to let them dry out a little more. I then noticed on some spotting on the leaves. after doing some reading I decided to feed all three plants with some herb and vegetable food. It is a 3-4-4 blend. It also has Ca, and Mg. Noticed an immediate change and she picked right back up. There has been some stretching, Nothing major, I did screw up and cut off a flower, or a would be flower. White Widow: My second favorite this grow. Nice bushy plant. However it is not auto flowering, so it will wait its turn and go in the other tent with the other widows. i fed her the 3-4-4 blend as well. Did some defoliation this week, not alot of height, but overall good growth I think for the week. Sleepy Yoda: The slowest of the three. She really picked up this week. I think the PH being so far out in the beginning stunted her pretty bad, but there has been a nice recovery. I fed the 3-4-4 blend and did some defoliation as well as continued LST. I added a time lapse of the days after the feeding. Shows some growth. Going to reposition next week to look more at the LSD-25/

Legend Timestamp: 📅 EC - pH: ⚗️ Temp - Hum: 🌡️ Water: 🌊 Food: 🍗 pH Correction: 💧 Actions: 💼 Thoughts: 🧠 Events: 🚀 Media: 🎬 D: DAY, G: GERMINATION, V: VEGETATIVE, B: BLOOMING, R: RIPENING, D: DRYING, C: CURING ______________ 📅 D43/B06 - 28/05/24 ⚗️ EC: 1.1 pH: 6 🌡️ T: 20°C H: 70% 🌊 🍗 💧 💼 🧠 🚀 🎬 1 TL video ______________ 📅 D44/B07 - 29/05/24 ⚗️ EC: 1.2 pH: 6.7 🌡️ T: 20°C H: 60% 🌊 🍗 Seaweed 💧 💼 🧠 🚀 🎬 1 TL video ______________ 📅 D45/B08 - 30/05/24 ⚗️ EC: 1.2 pH: 6.7 🌡️ T: 20°C H: 60% 🌊 🍗 💧 💼 🧠 🚀 🎬 1 TL video ______________ 📅 D46/B09 - 31/05/24 ⚗️ EC: 1.2 pH: 6.2 🌡️ T: 20°C H: 60% 🌊 🍗 💧 💼 🧠 🚀 🎬 1 TL video ______________ 📅 D47/B10 - 01/06/24 ⚗️ EC: 1.4 pH: 6.4 🌡️ T: 20°C H: 60% 🌊2L 🍗 💧 💼 🧠 🚀 🎬 1 TL video ______________ 📅 D48/B11 - 02/06/24 ⚗️ EC: 1.2 pH: 6.3 🌡️ T: 20°C H: 60% 🌊 🍗 💧 💼 Put some buds under the net 🧠 🚀 🎬 1 TL video ______________ 📅 D49/B12 - 03/06/24 ⚗️ EC: 1.2 pH: 6.4 🌡️ T: 20°C H: 80% 🌊6L 🍗 CalMag, Bloom A-B, Big Bud, Bud Candy, B-52 💧 💼 🧠 🚀 🎬 1 TL video

This lady is getting better every week All of her sisters are too Amazing genetics with amazing nutrients

week four flower everything looks fine so far :D I water them with 1.5l every 48h the light I use was set to 100% and it hangs 80cm away from the tops

11/20/23 - Day 14 - Today the box flipped to Veg state. I made the decision in the software yesterday, its take effect the next day at the light on schedule. The system will do a couple of things now that it's in Vegetative mode. Lights will remain at 18Hrs On/6hours Off, however the intensity will slowly creep from 30% intensity to 100% within a couple of days. Air Temp will remain the same at 79deg. F Humidity will go down to 50% Water temp and PH will remain the same, 64.5deg. F and 6.0Ph Because I have it all hooked up for Auto water. It started the first video about 1 min after lights on. It drained the water, refilled it. After it refilled it, it turned on the air stone, started the water temp cool down, and it slowly over the next 30 minutes delivered nutes, and finished it off with balancing the PH. All of this was done on its own. I DID NOTHING. Other than verify because why not. I sat back and watched the system work. This time around with everything hook up for auto I really am not doing much. The hardest part of this grow so far is not opening the door while the light is off. the rest of the week I don't expect to do much. I will update daily with pictures and things that I am noticing. This is an Auto strain. I am a little worried about growing an Auto in this box. usually, I can control the growth utilizing the lights because I'm space limited. This time the plants going to flip to flower on its own. I'll need to make sure I am training and cropping early on. 11/24/23 - Day 18 - Everything is starting to get aggressive in there. I say that because the new nodes are growing out of new nodes on the top. It's like its packed full of plant and it all wants to come out at the same time. The leaves have more serrated Leafs than I have seen on any of the other strains I have grown. Ill post a picture of the last time I grew this strain. I did it in Coco Coir. It will be cool to see the differences. 11/25/23 - Day 19 - The Leaves are all reaching up, and the plant is growing so fast! Its such a bushy plant.

Not much to show this week on the timelapse as we had a cold snap and power went out momentarily, and as such, the camera stopped recording, without me realizing this. So I have also added a little video of the rooms progress. Even with the small bit of footage, I can see that my feeding schedule twice a day seems to keep the leaves from drooping at any time in the video, so I will be keeping this going as is, checking the PH every couple of days and topping up the nutes bucket as needed. I am noticing some leaves dying, but they seem to be mostly ones that are not getting enough light and I am removing them as I go. The upper leaves and buds are looking strong so far, and just a touch of smell in the room. The colas are also starting to thicken and my fingers are getting sticky and stinky when working around them. Looking at the plants from a normal distance, they don't look very crystally, but the close up shots really are making them shine. After taking the pics, I like to zoom in on them and see all the crystals.

16" wide by 9" high, leaves doubled from week 4. Vigorous growth using bloom 0.50ml / 1L, keeping soil (pro-mix HP) moist daily

Hi buddies im back to the diary Everything is going well, the girls drink a lot 3 to 5 liters of feed per day, the Ph and EC remain stable. I see new roots and buds continue to bloom💣 so I think they are fine and healthy. Sensi Seeds indicates Skunk#1 with 8 weeks flowering now i am at the beginning of week 7 bloom but I still don't see milky or amber trichomes and not even so many brown pistils, so i will repeat the week 5 feed as AN advice... maybe from the next one I'll start with overdrive .. who knows? 😁 I made some macro videos of the trichomes, in the next few days I will update the diary with photos. Thanks for the answers and advices to the grow questions, I know you don't do it for the free seeds, its only love 💚😜 love you too buddies as usual thanks for stopping by and good growth everyone !! Update: I need a tripod to take better macro shoots. Sorry for low quality pics