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<span class="link_user">@smoker420</span>, Thanks brother, I do defoliate an lolipop, just do slow so I don’t stunt the plants, I gradually take more an more every day, but I’m careful not to take too much, best advice I can give is to just experiment, I don’t have any issues with stem rot, just make sure your plants are getting a decent amount of light through the canopy an you should be good, honestly I should of defoliated a little heavier that week but my plants are nice an pruned now, happy growing man :seedling: