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Pointy end of seed down or up?

Willcee43
Willcee43started grow question 1mo ago
Hi there Growers don't laugh because I've been growing for 8 years and am still not sure which end of the seed goes down when planting. I soak my seeds for 24hrs would I be better to do the wet tissue method. I've been planting pointy side down but seed conflicting info out there
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00110001001001111O
00110001001001111Oanswered grow question 1mo ago
First, it really doesn't matter. Maybe, the vertical placement saves a handful of hours off the total grow cycle? Worrying about 0.5% of the total time is fine if you you don't have more pressing factors to optimize. Even a smaller portion when you consider the few resources needed for that extra time too, since we are talking about germination stage of life... 20watt of light and maybe a 20w heat mat? I also do the 'plant it sideways' primarily so i don't need reading glasses to figure out which end is which when i do it. It really won't matter much... If it costs me 2-4 hours of time for the root to turn downward from that position and the growth tip upward, oh well. Didn't look long but found: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/369572672_Impact_of_the_orientation_of_seed_placement_and_depth_of_its_sowing_on_germination_A_review Just jump straight to the conclusion for a good summary. Essentially says it can have an effect but is also species dependent. If you look at the tables and such, it's a very small difference between vertical, slanted or horizontal for the species they tested. One study is not an answer, but it is far better than anecdote. Find enough research to form a mosaic of understanding and you can form a good opinion on the matter. Use good sources, not forums and grow question answers, lol. This is something evidence can support easily and no need for opinions on the subject.
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ATLien415
ATLien415answered grow question 1mo ago
I mean not a requirement but why the actual mid would anyone not plant the tap root down? Surface is harsh, light, dries first, and more. Generally speaking, you'd want to get the maximum depth ASAP. The nature argument doesn't really fit... In nature, you're gonna have settling to an extent where the majority of spawn will be oriented correctly. We don't do this in seed packs, the settling is artificial and then you orient the seed, undoing whatever settling would have occurred. Take 100 seeds, gently shake them in a flat surface with some filler like sand. Shake for an hour or two, then mark the top. Those go up, statistically speaking. That would be the way to emulate natural seed orientation in the dirt, not just saying nothing matters because I don't see anything happening in nature. I guess you could also grow your plants upside down with the lights on the floor and special containers to hold the soil against gravity. nobody is stopping you, but why would you
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m0use
m0useanswered grow question 1mo ago
Seeds are smart and gravity does the res of the work. if they are upside down they have the ability to turn themself round using gravity as a reference pint. If they don't, bad seed or they are being grown out side of gravity. NASA tested this stuff out in space on the ISS. In nature its legit just getting scattered all over and they do just fine with any other plant. When I did a seed product a bunch fell into the medium of the pot i was growing them out of. when I mixed it into the existing soil on my deck I had a bunch of random weed plants popping up everywhere. I find the 24hr soak is to long and sometimes can water log the seed. I like to do a 12hr soak vs 24 but that's just my experience if you don't have issues with 24. then don't fix whats not broken. I also sometimes scarify the seeds with an emery board and give em a quick peroxide rinse to help kill off anything on the shell that may have gotten there from my dirty hands. Some seeds can be burred much deeper then suggested and they will push up and be just fine. Morning Glories are one such seed. makes them invasive in some parts.
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Core_T_Son
Core_T_Sonanswered grow question 1mo ago
Der Sämling weiß durch die Schwerkraft, wo die Wurzeln hin müssen. Wenn du den Samen einweichst (mache ich auch immer bis er sinkt), dann direkt ca 1cm tief einpflanzt (ich nutze dafür Eazyplugs) und nicht mehr bewegst, bis die erste grüne Spitze zu sehen ist, dann ist es völlig egal. Ich achte nur darauf, dass der Samen relativ fest in dem Plug liegt und das Loch offen bleibt. Dann bleibt die Hülle meistens in dem Plug oder liegt in zwei Teilen drauf.
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Organoman
Organomananswered grow question 1mo ago
I plant them laying on their side and never have issues when germinating directly in soil (seed raising mix).
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Ganja_guru
Ganja_guruanswered grow question 1mo ago
Honestly I don't think it matters much as long as the depth is correct. That's the only time I've run into issues is when experimenting with depth
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