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Unnecessary nutes?
lowrydrstarted grow question 2d ago
AN nutes in soil, veg state: are there any you consider useless of less important? I'm running out of rhino skin and sensisym, bud candy. thinking whether should continue or not.
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ATLien415answered grow question 1d ago
You can get liquid silica that is used in much lower concentrations for much cheaper. You are buying water and paying AN a 5000% premium for their name after paying a 10x increase for shipping water around the world a few times just to silica. From what I hear they've tried to go to solids but their customers are lost. When they find out that they've been buying 49 bottles a year for a single additive, but then the solid is a single tablet the size of a tic tac for 50,000 gallons.......you're being mega ripped off. Not hating on mike, buying cheap nutes from cheap brands is bad for your health. People love to pretend that macros and secondaries and micros are the same. They arent, chemically. Sources in asia will sump poison metals into your chelates as a way to get them off Chinese or whatever soil... Miracle Grow abuses NPK laws and sells 99-4-10 as 4-4-4 to people at Lowes lol.... There is def a place in the market for AN, just hate the hype over the wrong reasons.
Same for the bud candy. Complete snakeoil for real... Snakeoil because if you need this input you can get it at any grocery store in the world, but if you wanted to get extra dank with it you can find stuff like Foop's Zaza sugar blend...which has the same stuff plus 700% more simple sugar sources from around the world. Same for paying for water and shipping here.
Szyme is the only thing I'd replace if you are having success with it. HMU if you wanna get into ferments. Most ferments aren't really ferments. Most ferments are basic hydrophilic extractions into sugar for shelf-life, done cold and slow, then pulled fast. If you are looking to capture just enzymes from moringa, then you're gonna fail without a few MM in the bank or a lab. Moringa is to enzymes what cannabis is to secondary metabolites that are nonisoprene that have sulfur molecules that also start with the letter s.....in other words, moringa has 1000s of OTHER ingredients (including dozens of PGRs). HMU if you want info on MLE tek production. If you wanna learn it yourself, organic single source virgin ML powder from a trusted supplier. A week in a cold enviornment after packing the plant with brown sugar then backfilling 1/4 with RO lab water. Day 7, I recommend some kosher medical ethanol to grab the hormones for real.
m0useanswered grow question 16h ago
Their stuff is overpriced and others have better for less. Shop Aorund.
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00110001001001111Oanswered grow question 1d ago
Sugars fed to roots cannot be utilized by the plant. the pathway simply does not exist. Sugars feed microbes in rootzone and you only need so much of that. That is the only reason to as molassess or some magical product AN markets. Probably just attract a bunch of ants with over-use, lol.
AN breaks things down into way too many products which just means you have to buy more shit. They water it down so you have to pay for transporting water-weight and have to buy their bottles more often. you'll pay 4-5x more for AN nutes than any suitable equivalents. That's not as bad as some but why pay 150/year instead of 33/year? or whatever ratio matches your use. Fertilizer is fertilizer. Some may be more ideal than others and whether you grow in soil or soilless makes some difference, but regardless, don't overpay for fertilizer.
for a total of 16-20 plants in a total of ~75 sq ft of canopy over the course of a year i only spend about 30-40 dollars a year on fertilizer. It should be a very small portion of total cost of indoor growing.
You don'tneed 9 different products to mostly max out production potential. and what you can't max out most likely isn't in your control or too cost-prohibitive to bother doing. AN is a marketing company. amateur fertilizer company. they have no shame selling magic.
ask people that use all the fancy stuff.. is it increasing yields? because you aren't doing better than 50-70g/sq ft given typical ambient co2.... unless they measure from the taint and include a bunch of fluffy, twiggy larf that nobody would want to smoke. Genetics is 99% of your resulting quality.. focus on getting good genetics.
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Still_Smoqanswered grow question 1d ago
I’d recommend you do a deep dive into your own research rather than relying on answers. The scientists or PhD holders here can’t come to a consensus on this, too much, too little, not needed, plant can’t absorb, etc etc. You can get by with minimum synthetic chemicals or go all out organic and spend big bucks. What matters is the end result, and your satisfaction. Are you growing something that smells like hay after a cure with a 15 minute buzz, or are you growing quality herb with great turps and a high that last for a while. My experiences say you will never grow weed on the cheap side of things.
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Ultravioletanswered grow question 1d ago
Rhino skin is just silica, cannabis is a dicot. Monocots hold about 10% Silica in leaf, dicots hold 0.5% iirc. Can't absorb foliarly. Add a handful of diatomaceous earth, boom good for entire grow.
Sensyme is just enzymes, ferment a queen Anne carrot or add some moringa powder at 1/8th the price and 10x the enzymes.
Bud candy is literally just carbon, bunch of sugars. Only sugar cannabis plant really needs is mollasses. Everything else is just gimmicky.
Sucrose, fructose, glucose, blah blah blah sucrose is the sugar molecules that is readily mobile in its current form, other sugars like glucose and fructose require to be converted and broken down to sucrose before being transported. That's why mollases is king as it is unique in that it majority sucrose. Sucrose is also a strong signaller when added to soil.
Useless, no, just grossly overmarketed.
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