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Runoff really matter ?

Mraady
Mraadystarted grow question 8d ago
Day 35 After adding nutes i got runoff ph 4.8 Did flush with 15L ro water no change Another 15L with flush recipe ( 1ml/L cal mag and 2.5ml/5L tiger bloom ) slight change in ph around 5.2 After 30Liter flush i left plant alone its growing but i am worried ! Yellow new growth
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Leaves. Color - Yellow
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Mr_Weeds_Autos
Mr_Weeds_Autosanswered grow question 7d ago
Hey Growmie, sounds like you’ve been doing your best to tackle a tough situation. A runoff pH of 4.8 is concerning; that level of acidity can severely limit the availability of essential nutrients like calcium, magnesium, and iron, which are crucial for healthy new growth. The yellowing you’re seeing at the top is likely a sign that the plant is screaming for help due to those deficiencies. You did the right thing by flushing with RO water and then following up with a light nutrient mix using Cal-Mag and Tiger Bloom. Seeing the pH only rise to around 5.2 after 30 liters suggests that your medium had a heavy salt buildup or poor buffering capacity, making it tough to swing the pH back into the ideal zone. At this point, it’s smart to let the plant settle and allow the root zone to dry out slightly before your next move. For your next feed, make sure your nutrient mix is well-balanced and pH’d to around 6.5 to help nudge that root zone back into the optimal range of 5.8–6.3. If runoff still stays low, another gentle flush with properly pH’d water and light nutrients may be needed. You might also want to consider adding something like dolomite lime or a root zone conditioner to help buffer pH long-term. Keep a close eye on that new growth over the next day or two. If the yellowing doesn’t spread and the plant keeps growing, you’re likely back on track. Let me know how she looks soon. Growmie, you’re doing solid work under pressure.
Kratistos
Kratistosanswered grow question 6d ago
While pH 5.2 is concerning, it's not catastrophic. Many nutrients remain available at this level, though in reduced quantities. However, phosphorus, potassium, calcium and magnesium absorption may be significantly impaired - and these are absolutely critical nutrients you don't want to lack during flowering. From this point forward, I strongly recommend continuously monitoring your water pH, ideally using multiple measurement tools for accuracy. This prevents extreme soil pH fluctuations and protects plant health. Start adjusting to pH 6.0, then gradually increase in small increments as needed when you observe the runoff approaching your target range. Your plant currently appears healthy. The absence of visible pH fluctuation symptoms suggests either your pH meter needs calibration/replacement, or you've been operating at this low pH level unintentionally by not testing fertilized water before application. Important consideration: Using distilled water for pH correction seems inadvisable. Without added fertilizers, you risk leaching existing nutrients from your medium and creating new deficiencies. If you do supplement with fertilizers, you must monitor runoff EC to avoid overfeeding. For your situation, I would temporarily switch to pH-adjusted tap water to maintain base nutrient levels and gradually reintroduce RO water later. Remember always verify both pH and EC before and after adding nutrient, and the runoff
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NoVC01
NoVC01answered grow question 7d ago
Ever thought about adjusting the ph with some PH Up? And, flushing without nutrients. You flush to get a fresh start. Then resume regular watering and feeding schedule.
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xdoom
xdoomanswered grow question 7d ago
yeah run off is everything you can tell whats happening inside bro, if you know you have them in range from having sesors thats different talk but you need to know whats their PH and EC in soil, thats most important thant what you pouring in basically. espetially PH if its off they cant eat
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pHilosophy420
pHilosophy420answered grow question 8d ago
Yeah, runoff matters big time. pH 4.8 or 5.2 means your roots are locked out, no calcium, magnesium, or iron getting in, which explains the yellow new growth. You’re in week 2 of flower, so this is the time to fix it. Flush again with pH 6.5 water + CalMag (1ml/L) until runoff hits 6.2–6.5. Then let it dry a bit and feed light (1/4 strength nutes, pH’d to 6.5). Autos don’t like heavy feeding. Keep checking runoff, it tells you what’s really going on in the roots. You’re still in the game, just get that pH right👊👍
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All_our_small_plants
All_our_small_plantsanswered grow question 8d ago
Sehe das so wie RasendeRollo92 ph wert korrigieren und da past das
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RasendeRollo92
RasendeRollo92answered grow question 8d ago
Hey 👋 I would suggest to correct it to ~ 6,2. this will be very important in flowering stage as your plant will lock out nutrients. In flower stage she will start to take the nutrients from out of the leaves and your leaves will die off. No leaves = no photosynthesis = no flowers.
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MistaOC
MistaOCanswered grow question 8d ago
A runoff pH of 4.9 is definitely far too low. This almost inevitably leads to nutrient lockout – and you can already see the first signs of it in your plant’s current growth. You should act quickly to correct this. I recommend watering with a higher pH of around 6.5 to 6.8 until your soil pH stabilizes and reaches the ideal range of 5.8 to 6.2. Keep in mind that during the flowering phase, the pH in the soil and runoff is typically a bit lower than during the vegetative stage. That’s why it’s important to aim for this target range now, to prevent nutrient uptake issues and support healthy plant development.
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MrGrowDiarie
MrGrowDiarieanswered grow question 8d ago
Ph up and problem ist
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MrGrowDiarie
MrGrowDiarieanswered grow question 8d ago
Summary: Runoff pH 4.8 = too low → nutrient lockout Flushed with 30L (RO + CalMag + light nutes) → pH rose slightly to 5.2 Plant still growing, but new growth is yellow --- Do this: Water with pH 6.5, light CalMag + mild nutes Monitor runoff → goal: 5.8–6.5 No heavy feeding until pH is stable --- Good sign: Plant is growing Yellow tips: Likely pH issue, not deficiency Next: Watch new growth – green = recovery
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00110001001001111O
00110001001001111Oanswered grow question 8d ago
yellow new growth can be from an overfeed of p or k. FF trio is a poorly balanced setup, imo. their instructions and ratios almost gaurantee problems. runoff is never going to be exactly what you want, but the offset should be consistent at the least. the method you use will matter too.. intiial runoff vs later on or if the tray is dirty, etc... be consistent but expect some volatility. trending on one direction or the other is typically a bad sign. ph-balance what water you provide and do your best to make sure it doesn't drift too far in any direction. when the plant is healthy and remains healthy for several weeks while you consistently provide fertilizer, then you can use whatever runoff reading you see as the offset you want to maintain or stay near. i'd stop running excess amounts of water through it unless there is a pending catastrophe. that's quite stressful for the plant. you may need a different balance of supplemented fertilizer going forward if it over stripped something.
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