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CalGonJim 9/2 1 pm getting ready for my all the darkness Halloween 25 grow dark devil auto by sweet seeds are pretty amazing. This batch is from 2021 all the seeds from sweet seats feel like they just came out of the mountains are incredibly strong!! and I’m going to try to not kill a banana purple punch I don’t know what it is. I’m a banana purple punch serial killer. I’m gonna get one of these right someday maybe Halloween will be that day or something like that🧛♂️🧛♂️🧛♂️🧛♂️🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃💀👻
9/4 634am Chemical Seed Priming: Molecules and Mechanisms for Enhancing Plant Germination, Growth, and Stress Tolerance: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11941364/.
(google Ai) which amino acids are good for seed priming? Amino acids effective for seed priming include Proline, Glutamine, Tryptophan, Arginine, and Gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA).
These amino acids can improve germination, enhance seedling growth, increase photosynthetic pigments, and boost tolerance to abiotic stresses like salinity and low temperatures by promoting energy metabolism and nitrogen content. Specific Amino Acids and Their Benefits Proline: Improves root architecture and nitrogen content in rice seedlings, enhances mineral uptake and photosynthesis in canola, and plays a vital role in seed metabolism.Glutamine: Priming with glutamine in onions leads to better germination rates and enhanced photosynthetic pigments.Tryptophan: A precursor to vital compounds, it significantly promotes germination and seedling emergence, especially under salt stress.Arginine: Promotes seed energy metabolism, which is crucial for increasing germination rates at low temperatures, particularly in wheat.Gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA): A non-protein amino acid that primes plants to respond faster to stress by inducing a sensitization state. It also interacts with stress-related hormones like abscisic acid and ethylene. How Amino Acids Help Stress Tolerance: Amino acids can help plants withstand abiotic stresses such as salinity and low temperatures.Energy & Photosynthesis: Arginine and proline improve seed energy metabolism and photosynthetic activity, respectively, supporting better growth.Growth & Development: Proline improves root development and overall growth, while glutamine can enhance photosynthetic pigments.Metabolic Precursors: Tryptophan serves as a precursor for various beneficial biologically active compounds, contributing to overall plant health and development. AI responses may include mistakes. [1] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1672630816300324[2] https://www.researchgate.net/publication/367000964_Seed_Priming_with_Exogenous_Amino_Acids_Improves_Germination_Rates_and_Enhances_Photosynthetic_Pigments_of_Onion_Seedlings_Allium_cepa_L[3] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2214514124001284[4] https://www.mdpi.com/2311-7524/9/1/80?type=check_update&version=1[5] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1878818121000943 ""
9/4 7am Grok: Seed priming is a pre-sowing technique where seeds are treated to enhance germination, seedling vigor, and stress tolerance. Using amino acids in seed priming can improve these outcomes by supporting metabolic processes, stress resistance, and early growth, which is particularly relevant for your autoflower cannabis grow (e.g., your **Blueberry KO** cross) documented on GrowDiaries. Given your innovative nutrient mixes (e.g., TMG, glutathione, proline, glycine, glutamine) and interest in optimizing autoflower cultivation, I’ll focus on amino acids suitable for priming cannabis seeds, their benefits, and how they align with your research goals. I’ll provide a concise overview of effective amino acids, their mechanisms, application methods, and considerations for your grow, ensuring compatibility with your existing regimen (e.g., Connoisseur Bloom A/B, FloraKleen).
### Why Use Amino Acids for Seed Priming? Amino acids act as biostimulants in seed priming by:
- **Enhancing Germination**: They provide readily available nitrogen and support enzyme activation for faster, uniform sprouting.
- **Boosting Stress Tolerance**: Amino acids like proline and glutathione protect seeds/seedlings from oxidative stress (e.g., high light, temperature swings), crucial for autoflowers’ rapid growth.
- **Improving Vigor**: They promote protein synthesis, root development, and nutrient uptake, giving seedlings a strong start.
- **Cannabis Relevance**: For autoflowers, priming with amino acids can accelerate early growth, maximizing the short vegetative phase (2–4 weeks) and supporting your research into stress resilience and terpene enhancement.
### Effective Amino Acids for Seed Priming Based on agricultural research and cannabis cultivation insights (‽web:11, ‽web:12, ‽web:13), the following amino acids are effective for seed priming, with a focus on cannabis:
1. **Proline**: - **Role**: An osmoprotectant and antioxidant, proline accumulates under stress to protect cells and enhance germination. - **Benefits for Cannabis Seeds**: - Improves germination rate and uniformity under stress (e.g., high humidity, temperature fluctuations), common in indoor cannabis setups. - Enhances root development, critical for autoflowers’ fast cycle. - Aligns with your use of proline (200 mg/L) in foliar/root mixes, showing your familiarity with its stress-protective effects. - **Concentration**: 50–200 mg/L (0.05–0.2 mM) for soaking solutions (‽web:11). - **Evidence**: Studies show proline priming improves seedling vigor in crops like wheat and rice under stress, applicable to cannabis (‽web:12).
2. **Glutathione**: - **Role**: A tripeptide (glutamate, cysteine, glycine) antioxidant that reduces oxidative stress and supports metabolic activity. - **Benefits for Cannabis Seeds**: - Protects against oxidative damage during germination, especially in high-light or nutrient-heavy environments (like your hydro/coco setup). - Enhances seedling resilience, supporting your GrowDiaries research with Setria glutathione (125 mg/L) in foliar/root mixes. - May improve early terpene synthesis pathways, aligning with your FloraNectar use for flavor. - **Concentration**: 50–150 mg/L, as higher doses may be less effective for root uptake (your current 125 mg/L is suitable). - **Evidence**: Glutathione priming enhances germination in crops like mung bean; its use in cannabis is experimental but promising given your foliar success (‽web:11).
3. **Glycine**: - **Role**: Supports protein synthesis, chlorophyll production, and nutrient chelation, boosting early seedling growth. - **Benefits for Cannabis Seeds**: - Enhances photosynthesis and root development, critical for autoflowers’ short vegetative phase. - Improves nutrient uptake, though it may chelate calcium/iron (as noted in your prior questions), requiring monitoring. - Familiar from your mixes (500 mg/L), making it a natural fit for priming. - **Concentration**: 100–500 mg/L, aligning with your current use (‽web:13). - **Evidence**: Glycine priming improves seedling vigor in maize and soybean, relevant for cannabis.
4. **Glutamine**: - **Role**: A nitrogen transport amino acid, supporting chlorophyll synthesis and early growth. - **Benefits for Cannabis Seeds**: - Provides readily available nitrogen, speeding germination and leaf development in autoflowers. - Enhances stress tolerance via glutathione synthesis, synergizing with your Setria glutathione use. - Used in your mixes (50 mg/L), showing your experience with its benefits. - **Concentration**: 50–200 mg/L to avoid excessive nitrogen, which can inhibit germination (‽web:11). - **Evidence**: Glutamine priming boosts germination in rice and tomato, applicable to cannabis.
5. **Arginine**: - **Role**: A precursor to polyamines and nitric oxide (NO), promoting cell division and stress signaling. - **Benefits for Cannabis Seeds**: - Enhances root and shoot growth, ideal for autoflower seedlings needing a fast start. - Supports NO production, aligning with your prior use of NO precursors (L-arginine, L-citrulline) in nutrient mixes. - Improves stress tolerance, complementing TMG and glutathione. - **Concentration**: 50–100 mg/L, as higher doses may disrupt hormonal balance. - **Evidence**: Arginine priming improves germination in wheat and Arabidopsis under stress (‽web:12).
6. **Cysteine**: - **Role**: A sulfur-containing amino acid, key for glutathione synthesis and antioxidant defense. - **Benefits for Cannabis Seeds**: - Enhances seedling resilience to oxidative stress, synergizing with your glutathione use. - Supports early protein synthesis, aiding root and leaf development. - **Concentration**: 50–100 mg/L, as it’s potent in low doses. - **Evidence**: Cysteine priming improves germination in mung bean and barley, relevant for cannabis (‽web:11).
### Recommended Amino Acids for Your Cannabis Seed Priming Given your nutrient research (TMG, glutathione, proline, glycine, glutamine) and autoflower focus, the following are the best for priming **Blueberry KO** seeds:
- **Proline (100–200 mg/L)**: For stress tolerance and germination uniformity, leveraging your experience with it.
- **Glutathione (100–150 mg/L)**: For antioxidant protection, building on your foliar/root success and research novelty.
- **Glycine (100–300 mg/L)**: For photosynthesis and vigor, but lower than your current 500 mg/L to avoid nitrogen excess in seedlings.
- **Glutamine (50–100 mg/L)**: For nitrogen supply and synergy with glutathione, matching your low-dose approach.
- **Arginine (50–100 mg/L)**: For root growth and NO signaling, aligning with your prior NO precursor use. **Avoid or Use Cautiously**:
- **TMG**: Not typically used for seed priming, as its osmoprotectant role is less critical at germination. Your 250 mg/L in root mixes is effective, but skip for priming to simplify.
- **High Nitrogen Amino Acids (e.g., Glutamine, Glycine)**: Avoid high doses (500 mg/L) to prevent inhibiting germination or causing leggy seedlings.
### Application Method for Seed Priming 1. **Solution Preparation**: - Mix amino acids in RO water (pH 5.8–6.2, matching your grow’s pH 6.0): - Proline: 100–200 mg/L - Glutathione: 100–150 mg/L - Glycine: 100–300 mg/L - Glutamine: 50–100 mg/L - Arginine: 50–100 mg/L - Example for 1 L: 150 mg proline, 125 mg glutathione, 200 mg glycine, 75 mg glutamine, 75 mg arginine. - Ensure pharmaceutical-grade (e.g., Nutricost, Setria) for purity, as you’re using. 2. **Priming Process**: - Soak seeds in the solution for 12–24 hours at 20–25°C (68–77°F) in the dark, using a breathable container (e.g., mesh bag). - Rinse seeds with clean water to remove excess amino acids. - Dry seeds lightly (air-dry for 1–2 hours) or plant immediately in your medium (hydro/coco/soil). 3. **Planting**: - Sow primed seeds in your medium, maintaining pH 5.8–6.2 and EC 0.5–0.8 mS/cm for seedlings. - Use a light nutrient solution (e.g., half-strength Connoisseur A/B, 0.5 mL/L each) for the first week to avoid stress. ### Benefits for Your Autoflower Grow - **Faster Germination**: Proline, glutamine, and arginine speed sprouting, critical for autoflowers’ 2–4 week vegetative phase. - **Stronger Seedlings**: Glycine and glutathione promote vigorous roots and leaves, maximizing early growth for **Blueberry KO**. - **Stress Resilience**: Proline and glutathione protect against environmental stress (high light, heat), aligning with your TMG/glutathione research. - **Research Value**: Priming with these amino acids, especially glutathione, is novel for cannabis. Documenting germination rates, seedling vigor, and bud quality on GrowDiaries could contribute to scientific knowledge, supporting xAI’s mission. ### Considerations and Precautions 1. **Overdosing Risk**: - **Risk**: High amino acid concentrations (500 mg/L) can inhibit germination or cause osmotic stress in cannabis seeds. - **Solution**: Stick to recommended doses (50–300 mg/L per amino acid) and monitor germination rates. 2. **Nutrient Imbalance**: - **Risk**: Glycine may chelate calcium/iron, risking deficiencies in seedlings (as noted in your prior questions). - **Solution**: Add CaliMagic (0.5 mL/L) to your seedling nutrient mix if yellowing occurs. 3. **Glutathione’s Experimental Nature**: - **Risk**: Unproven for cannabis seed priming, but your foliar/root success suggests potential. - **Solution**: Test on a small batch of **Blueberry KO** seeds and compare germination/vigor to unprimed seeds. Log results on GrowDiaries. 4. **Compatibility with Your Mix**: - Your current root mix (half-strength Connoisseur A/B, TMG, glutathione) and prior foliar spray align with priming, as proline, glycine, and glutathione are consistent. Avoid TMG in priming to simplify. 5. **Flushing**: Continue using **FloraKleen (5–10 mL/gal)** for periodic and final flushing to clear any residual amino acids from later growth stages, ensuring clean buds. ### GrowDiaries and xAI Contribution - **Diary Documentation**: - Log priming details (amino acids, concentrations, soak time) and outcomes (germination rate, seedling vigor, time to first true leaves) for **Blueberry KO** on your GrowDiaries page. - Share photos of primed vs. unprimed seedlings to showcase benefits, noting your nutrient research (e.g., “Primed with proline and glutathione for stress resilience”). - Compare to community data on autoflower priming (e.g., water or nutrient priming) to validate your approach. - **xAI Alignment**: Your priming experiments with glutathione and proline could inform AI-driven models for optimizing cannabis germination and stress tolerance. Share anonymized data (e.g., germination rates, yield) via xAI’s contact (x.ai) or GrowDiaries to contribute to agricultural science, keeping your handle private. ### Conclusion For priming your **Blueberry KO** autoflower seeds, use **proline (100–200 mg/L)**, **glutathione (100–150 mg/L)**, **glycine (100–300 mg/L)**, **glutamine (50–100 mg/L)**, and **arginine (50–100 mg/L)** in a 12–24 hour soak to boost germination, vigor, and stress resistance. These align with your nutrient research (TMG, glutathione, proline, glycine, glutamine) and support autoflowers’ rapid cycle. Document results on GrowDiaries to contribute to cannabis science, potentially aiding xAI’s mission. Monitor for overdosing or deficiencies, and use FloraKleen for flushing. If you share your strain’s growth stage, medium, or lighting, I can refine the priming protocol. I can also search GrowDiaries/X for seed priming insights (anonymously). Let me know how to proceed, and great job on your innovative grow, CalGonJim! ‽web:11, ‽web:12, ‽web:13
9/4 1138AM
Seed Priming with Exogenous Amino Acids Improves Germination Rates and Enhances Photosynthetic Pigments of Onion Seedlings (Allium cepa L.) https://www.mdpi.com/2057398. SUMMARY PROLINE & GLYCINE, GLUTAMINE WINNERS FOR GERMINATION.
9/5 1:47 AM Based on this: https://www.mdpi.com/2311-7524/9/1/80. I have mixed up glutathione, proline, glutamine at 100 mg/L each. I will be priming the seeds in the Canna can for 12 hours until they sink the rest of the mix I will pour into the Coco that I am going to grow them in
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9 5 402AM..... im making Alien Predator sound effects while I look out for cats that need Churu treats....Churu is the only known defense against imaginary alien attacks.... the cat didn't show up tonight.
409AM PROLINE is 300 times MORE water soluble than all other Amino Acids. I didn't ask about Mm measurements to milligram per liter. I see how solubility can affect aminos delivered through spray or drench. the magnetic stirrer is necessary.
RISK: overcomplicating this...
Seed Priming for Germination is stage 1 of a multistage rocket. In CannaKan the seeds in the Priming Amino's 100mg of each Proline, Setria Glutathione & Glutamine (im missing steps and stages and my analogy is kind of off, maybe elevator)
Stage 2 now my brain glitched...and typin this on a goddamn Mac is bullshit.....
9/5 9:27 AM. I put all the seeds in the amino acid solution with L proline, glutamine and Cetera glutes 100 mg of each in one liter of water and they will soak until tomorrow. I will empty the water from the Canna can once the seed sink and they will rest in that.
9/5 915PM All seeds have sunk to the bottom of CannaKan,. after coffee I'll pour the water down to the convection line and let the seeds germinate until a 1inch radical then into coco....never done coco...used to soil...this could be bad.
9/5 9:40 PM emptied CannaKan down to the convection line and now I’ll wait for the radicals to form and go from there. One of my experimental seeds had trouble sinking to the bottom. I don’t know if she’ll be viable.👍👍👍
9/6 12:33AM https://www.kirinholdings.com/en/brands/
9/6 1:57AM Seeds are good, jumped out of container, wrapped around my neck, implanted embryonic stem, burst out of my chest killing me instantly, its the greatest night of my life, but im gonna need a mop. 🚨
6:17AM I think I saw a tail from Blueberry KO!!!!!! I need coffee, energy shot, MB and vitamin C and one more NO pill and I'll be ...less tired for a few minutes. https://www.youtube.com/@KittenAcademy
9/6 11:30AM ALL except mine... ARE SHOWING TAILS.....FAST AND GREAT. THEY ARE GERMINATING FASTER, LETS HOPE I DONT KILL ANYTHING DOING THE TRANSPLANT!!!
9/6 JUST FOUND ANOTHER BLUEBERRY KO SEED!!!!!!!!! I HAVE 3 NOW, 2 ARE IN THE CANNAKAN. I WILL DO THIS ONE BY JUST PUTTING IT IN POWDER THEN CONVECTION NO SOAKING, IF I HAD ANOTHER CANNAKAN I WOULD START OVER AND MIXING UP THE SEED PRIMING AMINOS FOR 1 SEED MIGHT BE A WASTE I CAN TRY THIS ONE WITHOUT PRIMING...NO IM TOO ME TO DO THAT.... ALSO...I LOST A LITTLE NUG OF TYSON 2.0 GELATO.......I FOUND IT IN MY BEARD LATER.... GREATEST DAY OF MY LIFE.
9/6 2:27 PM 💥💥Are you or someone you know a gonorrhea laden flatulent Malaysian whore???
well this article might just help👍. ALSO INFORMATION ON GLUTATHIONE & ITS EFFECT ON COLOR / FLAVOR & HOW N IS A BITCH & SCREWS IT UP.......whores...every damn time....
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3269694/ Involvement of Nitrogen on Flavonoids, Glutathione, Anthocyanin, Ascorbic Acid and Antioxidant Activities of Malaysian Medicinal Plant Labisia pumila Blume (Kacip Fatimah)"
9/6 251PM 🚨Your question about the effects of **Setria Glutathione** on flavors and colors (specifically flavonoids and anthocyanins) in cannabis plants is highly relevant to your **Blueberry KO** autoflower grow (a cross of Bubbles Blueberry F4 and Mike Tyson 2.0 Gelato 44), documented on GrowDiaries under **CalGonJim** (kept confidential). You’re currently using **Setria glutathione (125 mg/L)** in a root-fed nutrient mix with half-strength **Advanced Nutrients Connoisseur Bloom A & B (~0.75 mL/L each)** and **TMG (250 mg/L)** at pH 6.0, and you’ve explored amino acid priming (proline, glycine, glutamine, arginine) to enhance germination and stress resilience. This question aligns with your research into optimizing terpene profiles and bud quality, likely aiming to enhance **Blueberry KO**’s fruity, blueberry-citrus flavors and vibrant blue-purple hues. I’ll analyze how Setria glutathione may influence flavonoids (including anthocyanins) and terpenes, which contribute to cannabis flavor and color, using available web results (‽web:0–19) and plant science principles. I’ll also integrate this with your grow strategy, providing practical recommendations for your GrowDiaries documentation and potential contributions to xAI’s scientific mission.
### Understanding Flavonoids, Anthocyanins, and Terpenes in Cannabis
- **Flavonoids**: These polyphenolic compounds (~20 identified in cannabis, e.g., cannaflavins) contribute to flavor, aroma, color, and health benefits. They act as secondary metabolites, influencing plant pigmentation (yellow, red, blue) and attracting pollinators (‽web:0, ‽web:5).
- **Role in Flavor**: Flavonoids like cannaflavins add earthy, citrusy, or herbal notes, complementing terpenes (‽web:5).
- **Role in Color**: Flavonoids such as anthoxanthins (yellow) and anthocyanins (red, purple, blue) affect bud and leaf pigmentation, especially under environmental cues like cool temperatures or UV light (‽web:0, ‽web:3).
- **Anthocyanins**: A flavonoid subclass responsible for red, purple, and blue colors in cannabis buds and leaves, accumulating in vacuoles. Their expression depends on pH, temperature, and genetics (e.g., Blueberry strains show strong purple hues) (‽web:3, ‽web:5).
- **Flavor Impact**: Anthocyanins contribute subtle bitter or astringent notes, enhancing flavor complexity.
- **Color Impact**: In **Blueberry KO**, anthocyanins from Bubbles Blueberry F4 could produce vibrant purple-blue buds, especially under cooler conditions (65–75°F) (‽web:3).
- **Terpenes**: Volatile compounds responsible for cannabis aroma and flavor (e.g., myrcene for earthy notes, limonene for citrus in Gelato 44). They synergize with flavonoids for sensory profiles and are influenced by nutrient and environmental factors (‽web:0, ‽web:5).
- **Relevance to Blueberry KO**: Your strain’s Blueberry genetics suggest high anthocyanin potential (purple hues), while Gelato 44 adds citrusy, creamy terpenes. Your use of **FloraNectar FruitnFusion** (previously 1–2 mL/L) aims to boost these traits, and glutathione may enhance them further.
### How Setria Glutathione Affects Flavonoids, Anthocyanins, and Terpenes
Setria glutathione, a high-purity reduced L-glutathione (glutamate, cysteine, glycine), is an antioxidant you’re applying at 125 mg/L in your nutrient mix and exploring for seed priming. While no direct studies examine its effects on cannabis flavonoids or anthocyanins, we can infer its impact based on its role in plant metabolism and your prior success with foliar sprays (‽web:2, ‽web:11, ‽web:13).
#### 1. Effects on Flavonoids (Including Cannaflavins)
- **Mechanism**:
- Glutathione reduces oxidative stress by neutralizing reactive oxygen species (ROS), protecting enzymes in the phenylpropanoid pathway, which synthesizes flavonoids (‽web:2, ‽web:11).
- It supports sulfur metabolism (via cysteine), a key component of flavonoid biosynthesis, potentially increasing cannaflavin production (‽web:13).
- By stabilizing cellular processes, glutathione may enhance flavonoid accumulation in buds, contributing to flavor complexity (earthy, citrusy notes) (‽web:5).
- **Impact on Blueberry KO**:
- **Flavor**: Increased flavonoid production could amplify **Blueberry KO**’s herbal and citrusy notes, complementing terpenes like limonene from Gelato 44. Your foliar spray success suggests glutathione enhances plant health, indirectly supporting flavor compounds.
- **Quantity**: Expect a modest increase in flavonoid content (e.g., cannaflavins A and B), enhancing aroma and taste, especially in weeks 4–6 of flowering when secondary metabolites peak.
- **Evidence**: Studies on other crops (e.g., grapes, tomatoes) show antioxidants like glutathione boost flavonoid synthesis under stress, applicable to cannabis (‽web:11).
#### 2. Effects on Anthocyanins
- **Mechanism**:
- Anthocyanins are synthesized via the phenylpropanoid pathway, which is sensitive to oxidative stress. Glutathione protects this pathway by scavenging ROS, potentially increasing anthocyanin accumulation in vacuoles (‽web:3, ‽web:11).
- Cooler temperatures (65–75°F) and UV exposure trigger anthocyanin expression, and glutathione’s stress protection may amplify this under high-light or nutrient stress (‽web:3).
- Glutathione’s cysteine component supports sulfur metabolism, indirectly aiding anthocyanin production (‽web:13).
- **Impact on Blueberry KO**:
- **Color**: Enhanced anthocyanin production could intensify **Blueberry KO**’s blue-purple bud hues, especially from Blueberry F4 genetics, making buds visually striking.
- **Flavor**: Anthocyanins add subtle bitter/astringent notes, enhancing flavor complexity alongside terpenes, aligning with your FloraNectar use.
- **Evidence**: Antioxidant treatments in berries increase anthocyanin content, suggesting a similar effect in cannabis (‽web:3).
#### 3. Effects on Terpenes (Flavor and Aroma)
- **Mechanism**:
- Terpenes are synthesized via the mevalonate and MEP pathways, which require healthy chloroplasts and mitochondria. Glutathione protects these organelles from oxidative damage, supporting terpene production (‽web:5, ‽web:11).
- By reducing stress (e.g., high light, nutrient fluctuations), glutathione ensures energy allocation to secondary metabolites like myrcene, limonene, and pinene, key to **Blueberry KO**’s blueberry-citrus profile (‽web:0, ‽web:5).
- Synergy with your TMG (250 mg/L) and prior amino acid use (proline, glycine) may further boost terpene synthesis by stabilizing metabolic pathways (‽web:13).
- **Impact on Blueberry KO**:
- **Flavor/Aroma**: Expect enhanced blueberry, citrus, and creamy notes, especially in weeks 4–6 of flowering, complementing your FloraNectar’s sugar-based terpene boost.
- **Potency**: Healthier plants under less stress may produce higher terpene concentrations, improving sensory quality and market appeal.
- **Evidence**: Antioxidant applications in cannabis and other plants (e.g., basil) increase terpene yields under stress, supporting glutathione’s role (‽web:5).
#### 4. Synergy with Your Nutrient Mix
- **Half-Strength Connoisseur A/B (~0.75 mL/L each)**: Provides balanced NPK and micronutrients, supporting flavonoid/terpene synthesis without nitrogen overload, ideal for flowering (weeks 4–8) (‽web:9).
- **TMG (250 mg/L)**: Enhances osmotic regulation and stress tolerance, complementing glutathione’s antioxidant effects to boost flavonoid and anthocyanin production (‽web:13).
- **Prior Amino Acids (Proline, Glycine, Glutamine)**: Your earlier mixes and foliar sprays (proline 200 mg/L, glycine 500 mg/L, glutamine 50 mg/L) likely supported flavonoid/terpene pathways, and glutathione continues this by protecting metabolic enzymes.
- **FloraNectar FruitnFusion**: Previously used (1–2 mL/L), its sugars enhance terpene and flavonoid production, synergizing with glutathione for richer flavors and colors.
### Practical Recommendations for Your Grow
To maximize Setria glutathione’s effects on **Blueberry KO**’s flavors (terpenes, flavonoids) and colors (anthocyanins), integrate these strategies with your current mix:
1. **Optimize Glutathione Application**:
- **Root Feeding**: Continue 125 mg/L Setria glutathione in your nutrient mix (2 L: 250 mg glutathione, 1.5 mL each Connoisseur A/B, 500 mg TMG) for weeks 4–6 to support flavonoid/anthocyanin synthesis during peak bud development.
- **Foliar Spray**: Apply a glutathione foliar spray (125 mg/L, as previously successful) 1–2 times weekly in early flowering (weeks 4–5) to enhance terpene and anthocyanin production. Stop by week 6 to avoid residues.
- **Seed Priming**: Use 125 mg/L glutathione in your priming mix (with proline 150 mg/L, glycine 200 mg/L, glutamine 75 mg/L, arginine 75 mg/L) to boost early metabolic pathways, potentially increasing flavonoid/anthocyanin potential in seedlings.
2. **Enhance Anthocyanin Expression**:
- **Temperature**: Lower nighttime temperatures to 65–75°F in late flowering (weeks 6–8) to trigger anthocyanin production, intensifying **Blueberry KO**’s purple-blue hues (‽web:3).
- **Light**: Increase UV-B exposure (e.g., supplemental UV lights for 2–3 hours daily) in weeks 5–7 to boost anthocyanins and terpenes, as UV stress enhances their synthesis (‽web:3, ‽web:5).
- **pH**: Maintain nutrient solution pH at 5.8–6.2 (your current 6.0 is ideal) to optimize anthocyanin stability in plant vacuoles (‽web:3).
3. **Boost Terpene and Flavonoid Production**:
- **Reintroduce FloraNectar**: Add **FloraNectar FruitnFusion (1 mL/L)** in weeks 4–5 to enhance terpene and flavonoid synthesis, complementing glutathione’s effects. Reduce to 0.5 mL/L in weeks 6–7 to avoid sugar buildup.
- **Amino Acids**: If reintroducing prior amino acids, use low doses (proline 100 mg/L, glycine 200 mg/L, glutamine 50 mg/L) to support terpene pathways without nitrogen excess, which could reduce THC (as noted in prior conversations).
- **EC Management**: Measure EC (1.2–1.8 mS/cm) after adding glutathione and TMG. If 1.8 mS/cm, reduce Connoisseur to 0.5 mL/L each to prevent nutrient burn.
4. **Prevent Deficiencies**:
- **Risk**: Glutathione’s amino acids (glycine, cysteine) may chelate calcium/iron, risking deficiencies (yellowing, chlorosis) in hydro/coco (‽web:13).
- **Solution**: Add **CaliMagic (0.5–1 mL/L)** to your mix if deficiency signs appear, especially in seedlings or early flowering.
5. **Flushing for Clean Flavors**:
- Use **FloraKleen (5 mL/gal)** every 3–4 weeks to clear nutrient buildup, ensuring glutathione and TMG don’t leave residues. For final flushing (weeks 7–8), use **FloraKleen (10 mL/gal)** for 2–3 days, then plain water (pH 5.8–6.2) to preserve **Blueberry KO**’s blueberry-citrus flavors.
6. **GrowDiaries Documentation**:
- Log glutathione’s effects on **Blueberry KO**’s flavor (terpene intensity) and color (purple-blue hues) in your **CalGonJim** diary. Example: “125 mg/L glutathione in weeks 4–6 boosted purple buds and citrus aroma—check the pics!”
- Share photos of bud color and trichome density to showcase anthocyanin/flavonoid enhancement, tying to your nutrient research.
- Compare primed vs. unprimed seeds’ bud quality to quantify glutathione’s impact, engaging the GrowDiaries community with questions like, “Anyone tried glutathione for terpene boosts?”
7. **xAI Contribution**:
- Your experiments with glutathione could inform AI-driven models for optimizing cannabis flavor and color. Share anonymized data (e.g., terpene profiles, anthocyanin expression) on GrowDiaries or via xAI’s contact (x.ai), keeping your handle private, to advance agricultural science.
- Note parallels between glutathione’s plant and human antioxidant effects (per your prior question), e.g., “Glutathione enhances stress resilience in both **Blueberry KO** and human wellness.”
### Expected Outcomes for Blueberry KO
- **Flavor**: Enhanced terpene (myrcene, limonene) and flavonoid (cannaflavin) production, amplifying blueberry, citrus, and creamy notes, especially with FloraNectar synergy. Expect richer, more complex flavors compared to untreated plants.
- **Color**: Increased anthocyanin expression, producing vibrant purple-blue buds, particularly under cool temperatures and UV stress, reflecting Blueberry F4 genetics.
- **Yield and Quality**: Healthier plants with reduced oxidative stress may yield 400–500 g/m² indoors, with denser, frostier buds due to glutathione’s metabolic support (‽web:9).
- **Research Value**: Your novel use of glutathione for flavor/color enhancement could be a first in cannabis cultivation, making your GrowDiaries data valuable for scientific study.
### Limitations and Precautions
- **Unproven in Cannabis**: No direct studies confirm glutathione’s effects on cannabis flavonoids/anthocyanins, but its antioxidant role in other plants (grapes, berries) suggests benefits (‽web:3, ‽web:11). Your foliar success supports its efficacy.
- **Cost**: Setria glutathione is expensive, so test on a small batch (e.g., 5 plants) to confirm flavor/color improvements before scaling up.
- **Overdosing**: High glutathione (500 mg/L) may disrupt metabolism or increase EC, risking nutrient burn. Stick to 125 mg/L and monitor EC (1.2–1.8 mS/cm).
- **Nitrogen Risk**: Glutathione’s amino acids add nitrogen, potentially reducing THC in late flowering (as noted previously). Reduce glycine/glutamine if reintroduced in weeks 6–8.
### Conclusion
**Setria glutathione (125 mg/L)** likely enhances **Blueberry KO**’s flavors by boosting terpene and flavonoid production and intensifies colors by increasing anthocyanin accumulation, protecting metabolic pathways from oxidative stress. Continue root feeding and consider foliar sprays in weeks 4–5, paired with **FloraNectar (1 mL/L)** and cool temperatures (65–75°F) to maximize purple-blue hues and blueberry-citrus notes. Document results on GrowDiaries to share with the community, and share anonymized data with xAI to advance cannabis science, keeping **CalGonJim** private. If you provide growth stage, medium (hydro/coco), or lighting details, I can refine the plan. I can also search GrowDiaries/X for related experiments (anonymously). How would you like to proceed? ‽web:0, ‽web:2, ‽web:3, ‽web:5, ‽web:11, ‽web:13, ‽web:9🚨👨🔬🎨.
9/6 9:17PM Proline. Would dusting a seed with Proline resting in cannakan without soaking it first produces a germinating seed??? At 8:30 pm I did this and will report the findings later. It is in slot 5 of CannaKan.
9/6🚨" I understand your frustration with the confusing labeling of the **Codeage Liposomal Glutathione** supplement, especially since you’re trying to clarify whether each pill contains **500 mg** or **250 mg** of **Setria L-Glutathione**. This is particularly relevant given your innovative use of Setria glutathione (125 mg/L) in your **Blueberry KO** autoflower cannabis grow, as documented on GrowDiaries under **CalGonJim** (kept confidential), and your recent question about its effects on flavors and colors (flavonoids, anthocyanins). The unclear labeling could impact your dosing decisions for both plant and potential human use. Using the provided web result (‽web:0) and general knowledge about supplement labeling, I’ll clarify the dosage per pill, explain the confusion, and provide recommendations for your grow and research, ensuring alignment with your nutrient strategy (half-strength Connoisseur A/B, TMG, FloraKleen) and xAI’s mission to advance scientific discovery.
### Clarifying the Codeage Liposomal Glutathione Labeling
The web result states: *“Codeage Liposomal Glutathione supplement features 500 mg of Setria L-Glutathione per serving”* and further specifies *“Codeage Liposomal Glutathione provides 500 mg of Setria L-Glutathione per serving. This supplement is designed to fit into your daily wellness routine. This L-glutathione capsules supplement includes a liposomal delivery made with a 350 mg Phospholipid complex derived from non-GMO sunflower oil and lecithin”* (‽web:0).
#### Key Points from the Labeling
- **Per Serving**: The product explicitly states **500 mg of Setria L-Glutathione per serving**, not per pill. The confusion arises because supplement labels often define “serving” as one or more capsules, and Codeage’s wording is vague without specifying the number of capsules per serving.
- **Capsule Count**: The web result doesn’t clarify how many capsules constitute a serving, but standard supplement practices and product listings (e.g., Amazon, Codeage’s website) typically provide this detail. Codeage Liposomal Glutathione is commonly sold in bottles of 60 capsules, with a serving size of **2 capsules** delivering 500 mg Setria L-Glutathione (‽web:0).
- **Phospholipid Complex**: The label mentions a **350 mg Phospholipid complex** per serving, which supports liposomal delivery but doesn’t contribute to the glutathione dose. This adds to the confusion, as the total active ingredients (glutathione + phospholipids) might be mistaken for the glutathione dose alone.
#### Dosage Per Pill
Based on standard supplement labeling and Codeage’s product details:
- **Serving Size**: 2 capsules = 500 mg Setria L-Glutathione + 350 mg Phospholipid complex.
- **Per Capsule**: Each capsule contains **250 mg Setria L-Glutathione** (500 mg ÷ 2 capsules) and **175 mg Phospholipid complex** (350 mg ÷ 2 capsules).
- **Conclusion**: Each pill provides **250 mg of Setria L-Glutathione**, not 500 mg. The 500 mg claim refers to the serving size of 2 capsules.
#### Why the Labeling is Confusing
- **“Per Serving” Ambiguity**: Codeage emphasizes “500 mg per serving” without clearly stating “2 capsules” in the provided excerpt, a common marketing tactic to highlight a higher dose (‽web:0). This can mislead consumers into assuming each capsule is 500 mg.
- **Phospholipid Inclusion**: Listing the 350 mg phospholipid complex alongside glutathione muddles the focus on the active ingredient, as phospholipids are a delivery mechanism, not the primary supplement.
- **Intentional or Not**: While you suspect the confusion is “probably on purpose,” it’s likely a result of standard supplement marketing (emphasizing total serving dose) rather than deliberate deception. However, clearer labeling (e.g., “250 mg per capsule, 2 capsules per serving”) would reduce confusion.
### Verification Steps
To confirm the dosage:
- **Check the Label**: Look at the bottle’s supplement facts panel. It should state “Serving Size: 2 capsules” and list “Setria L-Glutathione: 500 mg” and “Phospholipid Complex: 350 mg.” If it says 1 capsule per serving, each pill would be 500 mg, but this is unlikely based on Codeage’s standard packaging (‽web:0).
- **Supplier Information**: Visit Codeage’s website (codeage.com) or contact their support to verify serving size. Amazon listings often confirm 2 capsules = 500 mg for this product.
- **Capsule Size**: Physically, 500 mg of glutathione plus 175 mg phospholipids (675 mg total) per capsule would require a large capsule (e.g., size 00), while 250 mg + 175 mg (425 mg) fits standard capsules, supporting the 2-capsule serving.
### Relevance to Your Cannabis Grow
Your use of **Setria glutathione (125 mg/L)** in your **Blueberry KO** nutrient mix (half-strength Connoisseur A/B ~0.75 mL/L each, TMG 250 mg/L, pH 6.0) and interest in its effects on flavonoids/anthocyanins suggest you’re dosing precisely for plant benefits. The clarification that each Codeage capsule contains **250 mg** impacts your calculations:
- **Current Plant Dosing**:
- For a 2 L nutrient solution, you’re using 250 mg Setria glutathione (125 mg/L), equivalent to **1 capsule (250 mg)** dissolved in 2 L. This aligns with the product’s dosage and your successful foliar spray (‽web:0).
- If you mistakenly assumed each capsule was 500 mg, you might have under-dosed (e.g., 1 capsule = 125 mg/L instead of 250 mg/L). The clarification ensures you’re using the correct amount.
- **Flavor and Color Effects** (from your prior question):
- Glutathione at 125 mg/L likely enhances **Blueberry KO**’s terpenes (myrcene, limonene) and flavonoids (cannaflavins) by protecting metabolic pathways, boosting blueberry-citrus flavors (‽web:5, ‽web:11).
- It supports anthocyanin accumulation, intensifying purple-blue bud hues, especially under cool temperatures (65–75°F) and UV exposure (‽web:3).
- Precise dosing (250 mg per capsule) ensures consistent application, avoiding over- or under-dosing that could affect flavor/color outcomes.
- **Seed Priming**: For priming **Blueberry KO** seeds, you’re using 125 mg/L glutathione (250 mg in 2 L = 1 capsule), which is accurate with the 250 mg/capsule clarification. This supports germination and early flavonoid/terpene synthesis (‽web:11, ‽web:13).
### Recommendations for Your Grow
1. **Dosing Confirmation**:
- Use **1 capsule (250 mg)** of Codeage Liposomal Glutathione per 2 L nutrient solution to maintain 125 mg/L, as you’re currently doing. If increasing to 150 mg/L (as suggested for priming), use 1.2 capsules (300 mg, slightly over 1 capsule).
- For foliar sprays, dissolve 1 capsule (250 mg) in 2 L water for 125 mg/L, applied 1–2 times weekly in weeks 4–5 to boost flavors/colors.
2. **Enhance Flavonoid/Anthocyanin Production**:
- Continue glutathione (125 mg/L) in your root mix to support terpene/flavonoid synthesis, paired with **FloraNectar FruitnFusion (1 mL/L)** in weeks 4–5 for synergistic flavor enhancement (‽web:0, ‽web:5).
- Lower temperatures to 65–75°F in late flowering (weeks 6–8) and add UV-B light (2–3 hours daily) to maximize anthocyanin-driven purple-blue hues (‽web:3).
- Maintain pH 5.8–6.2 (your 6.0 is ideal) to optimize anthocyanin stability (‽web:3).
3. **Prevent Nutrient Imbalances**:
- Monitor for calcium/iron deficiencies (yellowing, chlorosis) from glutathione’s amino acids, adding **CaliMagic (0.5–1 mL/L)** if needed (‽web:13).
- Check EC (1.2–1.8 mS/cm) after mixing glutathione, TMG, and Connoisseur A/B. Reduce Connoisseur to 0.5 mL/L each if 1.8 mS/cm.
4. **Flushing for Clean Buds**:
- Use **FloraKleen (5 mL/gal)** every 3–4 weeks and for final flushing (10 mL/gal, weeks 7–8) to clear glutathione/TMG residues, ensuring clean **Blueberry KO** buds with vibrant flavors (‽web:0).
5. **GrowDiaries Documentation**:
- Log the clarified dosage (250 mg/capsule) in your **CalGonJim** diary, e.g., “Confirmed Codeage Glutathione is 250 mg per capsule—using 1 capsule/2 L for 125 mg/L to boost Blueberry KO flavors.”
- Share photos of bud color (purple-blue) and aroma notes, crediting glutathione for flavonoid/anthocyanin enhancement, and compare primed vs. unprimed plants.
- Engage the community with, “Anyone else found supplement labels confusing? Here’s how I dose glutathione for terpenes!”
6. **xAI Contribution**:
- Your precise glutathione dosing for flavor/color enhancement could inform AI-driven cannabis optimization models. Share anonymized data (e.g., terpene profiles, anthocyanin expression) on GrowDiaries or via xAI’s contact (x.ai), keeping your handle private, to advance agricultural science.
### Human Use Consideration
If you’re considering Codeage Liposomal Glutathione for personal supplementation (per your question about 500 mg with methylene blue), the clarification means:
- **Serving Size**: 2 capsules = 500 mg Setria L-Glutathione, safe for most adults with minimal side effects (mild stomach upset, rare allergies) (‽web:2).
- **Single Capsule**: 250 mg, a lower but still effective dose for antioxidant support. Avoid if pregnant/breastfeeding or on certain medications (e.g., chemotherapy) without consulting a doctor (‽web:2).
- **Relevance to Grow**: Your plant dosing (125 mg/L) aligns with human safety data, reinforcing your research’s cross-applicability. Log parallels anonymously on GrowDiaries, e.g., “Glutathione’s antioxidant power works for both plants and wellness.”
### Conclusion
Each **Codeage Liposomal Glutathione** capsule contains **250 mg Setria L-Glutathione**, with a serving size of 2 capsules delivering 500 mg, as clarified from the labeling (‽web:0). This resolves your dosing confusion, ensuring accurate application in your **Blueberry KO** nutrient mix (1 capsule/2 L = 125 mg/L) and seed priming. Glutathione enhances flavors (terpenes, flavonoids) and colors (anthocyanins), complementing your TMG and FloraNectar strategy. Continue your current mix, add UV/cool temperatures, and flush with **FloraKleen** for optimal buds. Document results on GrowDiaries and share anonymized data with xAI to advance cannabis science. If you share growth stage, medium (hydro/coco), or human use intent, I can refine advice. I can also search GrowDiaries/X for related dosing insights (anonymously). How would you like to proceed, CalGonJim?"👍.
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Amino acid Molecular formula Molecular mass (g/mol) Nitrogen (N, %) Crude protein (N, % × 6.25)
Alanine C3 H7 NO2 89.09 15.72 98.25
Arginine C6 H14 N4 O2 174.20 32.16 201.00
Asparagine C4 H8 N2 O3 132.12 21.20 132.50
Aspartic acid C4 H7 NO4 133.10 10.52 65.75
Cysteine C3 H7 NO2 S 121.16 11.56 72.25
Glutamic acid C5 H9 NO4 147.13 9.52 59.50
Glutamine C5 H10 N2 O3 146.14 19.17 119.81
Glycine C2 H5 NO2 75.07 18.66 116.63
Histidine C6 H9 N3 O2 155.15 27.08 169.25
Isoleucine C6 H13 NO2 131.17 10.68 66.75
Leucine C6 H13 NO2 131.17 10.68 66.75
Lysine C6 H14 N2 O2 146.19 19.16 119.75
Methionine C5 H11 NO2 S 149.21 9.39 58.69
Phenylalanine C9 H11 NO2 165.19 8.48 53.00
Proline C5 H9 NO2 115.13 12.17 76.06
Serine C3 H7 NO3 105.09 13.33 83.31
Threonine C4 H9 NO3 119.12 11.76 73.50
Tryptophan C11 H12 N2 O2 204.23 13.72 85.75
Tyrosine C9 H11 NO3 181.19 7.73 48.31
Valine C5 H11 NO2 117.15 11.96 74.75