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Vincent_Van_Grogh MY FIRST GROW EVER. WHY Dutch Passion - Think Different? As a grow virgin, I was looking for a strain that was: - an easy grow (because I'm lazy), - resilient (will make many mistakes), - had high yields even in a newbie's hands. Forum after forum, I found that TD was a top choice for beginner growers like me. Also, Think Different was apparently a very pivotal strain within the history of Autoflowers(?)... Or so I read. WHAT IS THE SETUP? Soil (FFOF/HF) + Perlite (70/30). Layered with HF @ topsoil. OF @ bottom. 480w KingBrite LED + Cree Reds @ 60%. 4x2 tent, 3g fabric pots, 3 plants, same strain. All three 🌱🌱🌱 sprouted on May 1 or 2. NOOB GROWER THOUGHTS, GERM WK: I found out that if the seed keeps on floating despite 24 hrs of being soaked... I can do a gentle and light tap... This force should be enough for the seed to go BOTTOMS!
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Glass Of Water
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Week 1. Vegetation
4y ago
4.57 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
24 °C
Day Air Temp
6.4
pH
No Smell
Smell
60 %
Air Humidity
18 °C
Night Air Temp
11.36 liters
Pot Size
0.23 liters
Watering Volume
68.58 cm
Lamp Distance
Vincent_Van_Grogh DAY 7 --- So far, so good. Yellow and Red are fine. Green's growth is a little behind the others. Could be a different pheno? Overwatered? Could just be slow growing? Who knows!? It's the seedling stage and it's anyone's guess. 🤣😝🌱 Happy growing to you all!! NOOB GROWER THOUGHTS, WEEK 1: Seedlings are fragile AF! LOL! Having said that I either over-watered GRN or the FFOF soil burned her w some K. I hope she doesn't stunt and pushes through. This strain is known to be resilent. Fingers crossed!
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Week 2. Vegetation
4y ago
10.16 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
24 °C
Day Air Temp
6.4
pH
No Smell
Smell
70 %
Air Humidity
18 °C
Night Air Temp
11.36 liters
Pot Size
0.34 liters
Watering Volume
68.58 cm
Lamp Distance
Vincent_Van_Grogh DAY 14 -- ♥️ RED is definitely on the lead. She's outgrown the tag. This could also be because she gets the most light as she is in the center of the tent. 💛 YLW is the "normal" sized one at day 14. Based on pics I've seen anyway. I'm gonna move her dead center of the tent and see if she catches up with RED in any way. 💚 GRN is stunted. Over watered on day 1 or hot soil issue... and she is paying the cost. She probably won't grow any wider than that and will be very stout. I will most likely not train this one in any way at all. About to enter the full on vegg stage. I will increase light gradually from 40% from to 60% and lessen humidity buy 5-8% or so. This is my first grow ever and I've already learned a lot in two weeks. 🌱🌱I'm pretty sure I will make many many more errors. Looking forward to learning from those as well. 🌱🌱 NOOB GROWER THOUGHTS, WEEK 2: COVID stay at home orders have made me a "helicopter plant parent." I find myself hovering on my girls without rhyme nor reason. At times, I catch myself just staring at them with bewilderment. Other times, I adjust the RH or temp or light just so I feel like I'm doing something... I guess this isn't abnormal for a new grower.. from what I've heard anyway. Any of you ever been helicopter parents before? Hehe!
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Week 3. Vegetation
4y ago
13.97 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
28 °C
Day Air Temp
6.4
pH
No Smell
Smell
65 %
Air Humidity
20 °C
Night Air Temp
11.36 liters
Pot Size
0.3 liters
Watering Volume
58.42 cm
Lamp Distance
Vincent_Van_Grogh 🍒♥️ RED - D15 LST. Aggressive LST as she's grown the biggest. Planning to cut top leaf that was going to cover new growth and a bottom branch/growth that wasn't going to get any light based on the LST bend... But not sure yet.. 🍌💛 YLW - D17 LST. Normal LST on her than red. Just because of her smaller structure. Didn't want to go heavy until later as she grows more. 🍏💚 GRN - Mild LST as she got stunted early on as a seedling by some hot soil (FFOF, rookie mistake, never again). I was planning for 0 training on her for 0 stress. But a little won't hurt. 😅 Family photo is D20 with all other non-cannabis, indoor plants in the house. 🌿🌞🌱 NOOB GROWER THOUGHTS, WEEK 3: I am beginning to understand what people mean when they say "listen to your plant." All these 3 are the same genome but they are each very different... Different water needs. Different reactions to stressors. And etc. They are all the same genetics but are each their own unique snowflake. ❄️
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LST
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Week 4. Vegetation
4y ago
13.97 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
28 °C
Day Air Temp
6.4
pH
No Smell
Smell
62 %
Air Humidity
20 °C
Night Air Temp
11.36 liters
Pot Size
0.38 liters
Watering Volume
58.42 cm
Lamp Distance
Vincent_Van_Grogh DAY 24 -- You can only tuck leaves so much... And I did just that for the last few days or so. But the new growth was in the shadows so I went for some light defoliation of inner leaves only -- no more than 3-4 small inner leaves per plant. The girls are pretty low as I went a little hard on the LST... and early... There's hopefully another week or veg to go. We will see. D28 -- they bushed out. This should flower in the next week or two. Will continue to LST AND defo during transition. Will no longer update plant per plant as all three seem to be chugging along well and in full veg mode! NOOB GROWER THOUGHTS, WEEK 4 -- I just keep of fiddling with the girls more than I should. I wonder when this feeling will end!? This whole "I need to do something" to help... When really the best thing to do is to just let them go. Funny how that applies in real life and not just growing. Hmmm...
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Defoliation
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Week 5. Flowering
4y ago
13.97 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
28 °C
Day Air Temp
6.4
pH
No Smell
Smell
62 %
Air Humidity
20 °C
Night Air Temp
11.36 liters
Pot Size
0.64 liters
Watering Volume
58.42 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 1
Big Bloom - Fox Farm
Big Bloom
4 mll
Vincent_Van_Grogh Pre-flower has started with possible signs showing on 2 of the 3 plants. Trained them one last time while still in transition. This will be my last major defoliation and LST before they fully bloom. I will (try) and leave them alone for a week+ to bloom before adding more stress -- (possibly) doing some lollipop for bottom air movement. I'm pretty sure I accidentally topped some of the many nodes in one or two of the plants. But at this point it really doesn't matter much. They are gonna grow like monsters regardless of any errors now. Getting my watering rhythm on point as well. Excited to see them flower fully and witness the "STRETCH" for the first time. NOOB GROWER THOUGHTS, WEEK 5 -- I have definitely been able to detach myself more from the plants. They are now mostly on automatic anyway. Lo and behold, the week I stop effing around with them... They finally bloom and reward me for my patience!
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Defoliation
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Week 6. Flowering
4y ago
13.97 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
28 °C
Day Air Temp
6.4
pH
Normal
Smell
55 %
Air Humidity
20 °C
Night Air Temp
11.36 liters
Pot Size
0.64 liters
Watering Volume
50.8 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 1
Big Bloom - Fox Farm
Big Bloom
3 mll
Vincent_Van_Grogh Made my own cheap SCROG netting. The girls are about to do their stretch. All 3 are flowering. Slowly removing fan leaves and any inner leaves covering floral growth. No more than 3-4 a day per plant. Slow and light. So far, so good... I think so anyway... What do I know... I'm a noob... If someone is still following this diary and sees something that I can improve or any advice at all... I'm all ears. Happy growing everyone!🌱🌿😎 NOOB GROWER THOUGHTS, WEEK 6 -- I'm getting paranoid with them being Hermie... I've seen too many diaries here go that way, including ones of these same exact genetics. No matter how much effort you put in, it's still really not up to you... Just gotta detach from the outcome while still trying my best -- both in growing and in life.
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ScrOG
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Week 7. Flowering
4y ago
13.97 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
28 °C
Day Air Temp
6.4
pH
Normal
Smell
55 %
Air Humidity
20 °C
Night Air Temp
11.36 liters
Pot Size
0.64 liters
Watering Volume
45.72 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 1
Big Bloom - Fox Farm
Big Bloom
3 mll
Vincent_Van_Grogh For a first time grower, the SCROG is definitely a bitch and a half... But worth it once you see 75-80% of your tent filled with buds, praying upwards to the light. Thankfully, they have slowed down vertically. So no more twice a day SCROG adjustments for a while --- hopefully anyway. I'm having a hard time with lowering RH. Although a fellow grower has suggested not to worry with RH as long as you apply BT bacteria... True? Any advice on RH management on late flower stage for a noob? I'm always willing to learn! Happy growing everyone! May your plants be merry and happy! 🌿 🌱 😎 NOOB GROWER THOUGHTS, WEEK 7 -- GrowDiaries along with other online forums on growing are filled with helpful individuals who are generous with their time. But maaan, sometimes you really come across people who take this shit waaaay too seriously. Lol! Reddit, here, autoflower network... Everywhere! I suppose that's true in any community. You will always have people of that same ilk. Just funny... I thought wine snobs were bad... GrowSnobs are worse!!!! Have you ever encountered a GrowSnob?
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Defoliation
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Week 8. Flowering
4y ago
13.97 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
28 °C
Day Air Temp
6.4
pH
Normal
Smell
50 %
Air Humidity
20 °C
Night Air Temp
11.36 liters
Pot Size
9.01 liters
Watering Volume
45.72 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 1
Big Bloom - Fox Farm
Big Bloom
3 mll
Vincent_Van_Grogh Noticed some wind burn 🍃 🔥 on the plant/leaves closest to the fan. Moved it and accidentally hurt the plant again. SCROG-adjustments-woes! UGGGH! Lesson learned... Once scrogged... Tough to readjust! Be extra careful. The red hairs 🌹 are showing up with some already leaning and wilting down. Really excited for them to fruit! 🍓 I am definitely growing at least two phenotypes of TD. One that is meant to be very tall and w very thinned out long leaves -- heavily sativa. And one that is the "more common" pheno. I now understand what this whole pheno-hunting term means. NOOB GROWER THOUGHTS, WEEK 8 -- This grow isn't even done and I am already thinking of my next. I've definitely bought too many seeds. And my grow space is waaay too limited. I will expand once I move to a new place.. and already have a plan for an eternal harvest. More tents 🎪, more seeds 🌱, more everything ... It's official, folks... I'm addicted to growing! And I love it!!! 😎
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Vincent_Van_Grogh
Vincent_Van_Groghstarted grow question 4y ago
I'm wanting to harvest the earliest possible -- long story, time constraints. Question: seeing my plants now, what's the earliest I can harvest without sacrificing too much potency? I know early harvest means more head high, later means couch lock. I'm okay with that trade off.
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SpiderMiteanswered grow question 4y ago
Not knowing your timeline. I would say you need to use every minute of it then harvest.
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Week 9. Flowering
4y ago
13.97 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
28 °C
Day Air Temp
6.4
pH
Normal
Smell
50 %
Air Humidity
20 °C
Night Air Temp
11.36 liters
Pot Size
9.01 liters
Watering Volume
45.72 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 1
Big Bloom - Fox Farm
Big Bloom
3 mll
Vincent_Van_Grogh RH was constantly above 60. And I am averse to buying a dehumidifier for such a small grow space. Went ahead and defoliated bottom leaves a bit. And opened up the canopy a bit more for light and air to pass through. The photos say it all. Thinking about removing the SCROG -- 1) too complex to remove runoff w it on. 2) any adjustments w the plants location/rotation requires so much extra work just because it's on. Either way, I don't think I'll be using a SCROG for my next grow. We will see. Will add more photos and weekly thoughts later. Happy growing everyone! I hope your plants are merry! 😎🌱
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Week 10. Flowering
4y ago
13.97 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
28 °C
Day Air Temp
6.4
pH
Normal
Smell
50 %
Air Humidity
20 °C
Night Air Temp
11.36 liters
Pot Size
9.01 liters
Watering Volume
45.72 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 1
Big Bloom - Fox Farm
Big Bloom
3 mll
Vincent_Van_Grogh DAY 70! Wow I made it through my first 10 weeks without killing any of my girls! That in and of itself is an accomplishment for me! The phenotype that grew really fast (RED) has fox-tailed. I see that this is common among TD strains that sway this way. It's going to be an extra pain trimming these... Just for airy buds. Oh well! Noob-grower blues! The normal (YLW) and slow (GRN) girls are actually fattening up. And their buds seems to be very sense. Or at least compared to the fast growing one. Excited for my next grow. These girls can probably use another 2-3 weeks at least before chop. We shall see.
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Week 11. Flowering
4y ago
13.97 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
28 °C
Day Air Temp
6.4
pH
Normal
Smell
50 %
Air Humidity
20 °C
Night Air Temp
11.36 liters
Pot Size
9.01 liters
Watering Volume
45.72 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 1
Big Bloom - Fox Farm
Big Bloom
3 mll
Vincent_Van_Grogh The FLUSH has began... Only feeding pH water and nothing else. Some leaves have already started their fade. I almost feel like I have three different phenos of TD -- A heavy sativa one that's waaaay too branchy and is prone to foxtailing -- according to Reddit and other journals. I have two "normal" ones with one turning purple and the other staying at that light orange hue. Might shift in these last two weeks though. They all smell like citrus but have distinct tones to each of them. It's gonna be an interesting diversity in smoke too right? Or will it be the same for all three despite the phenotype being different? Noob questions :) Happy growing fellow farmers! 😎🌱
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Week 12. Flowering
4y ago
13.97 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
28 °C
Day Air Temp
6.4
pH
Normal
Smell
50 %
Air Humidity
20 °C
Night Air Temp
11.36 liters
Pot Size
9.01 liters
Watering Volume
45.72 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 1
Big Bloom - Fox Farm
Big Bloom
3 mll
Vincent_Van_Grogh I was first sad that I had to harvest all three girls at different times if I wanted my trich levels almost equal on all three. But then I realized that if I harvest them on the same day(ish) -- ♥️ RED -- grew the fastest and has the most amber. She will be a "later" harvest and will give me that couch lock high. 💚 GRN -- was a late bloomer due to minor stunting. She will be the "early" one with least amber-developed trichs, giving me more of that head high. 💛 YLW -- will (hopefully) be a balance of both since it will be the "on time" harvest since it's had the most "normal" growth. So, instead of being sad... I am now quite happy on the diversity of smoke I'm going to get. Silver lining all the way! A note on Dutch Passion Autos -- I am thankful that the elongated grow season with these genetics gives more time for the plant to heal from the multiple errors newbies such as myself make. I now realize a grow season of 13-16 weeks for an auto is considered too long, by today's standards. Now that I have some grow experience, I might not be too keen on growing 16 week autos again... In my next grow, I am hoping it doesn't take that long. Fingers crossed! Sending good vibes to all growers and plants out there. Wishing you all a happy growth and an even happier smoke!
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Week 13. Harvest
4y ago
Happy Harvest Day!
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Easy to grow and definitely recommended for first time or noob growers! A very forgiving strain to learn with!
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326.67 g
Bud wet weight per plant
50.33 g
Bud dry weight per plant
3
Plants
2.44
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Creative, Energetic, Uplifted
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Citrus, Fruity, Sour
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Vincent_Van_Grogh FIRST HARVEST BEGINS! WEIGHT REPORT, after 8 days quick dry -- ♥️ RED had 59g - Expected more but she was the fox-tailed one. So, it's not surprising as she is airy AF. 💚 GRN had 72g -- this is more what I expected, about an 2.5 bags per plant. She was stunted and slow growing though. 💛 YLW had a whopping 81 grams. That's more like it! Expected as she was the "normal" growth one! Larf, popcorn, bottom buds were ~20 grams. Did not add this to final weight. Should I? Still not as much as other Think Different harvests I've seen. But not bad for a noob like me! I think these are high yielding genetics as a whole too. I don't know if next grow will yield this much. Smoke report. Additional comments. More pics to come later.
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Darkdarktime
Darkdarktime commented4y ago
Seems like you should have a comprehensive round up of think different here with that broad spectrum of trchome development, probably worked out for the better mate by the sounds of it 😉 glad you successfully got to H well done!
Vincent_Van_Grogh
Vincent_Van_Grogh commented4y ago
@Darkdarktime, hey dark! Really good points on DP being worth it! There is a reason why new growers like us ended up choosing them for sure! And yes, I can definitely tell it's worth the wait. I was reading about how 90 days is now the current standard for autos -- granted that all grow conditions are decent and the grower isn't an idiot (good luck to me on that one 🤣😂). 200 day grinspoon photo? Whuuuut??! I really want to try a photo some time because fellow growers say one can learn more from it. Yes, our plants definitely look different. TBH, I think yours are more in line with how DP-TD plants look like in other journals. I mucked mine too much. Good job! Especially on the first grow! I haven't thought about doing anything w trim. Perhaps just some butter and baked goods. I heard it would take at least a few season's worth of trim to get a smokable piece of hash... True? Which of your DP seeds you growing next? I have an auto Cinderella Jack from them... And I am curious. Can't wait for your smoke report! And definitely gonna follow your future grows! Noob growers unite!!!
Darkdarktime
Darkdarktime commented4y ago
@Vincent_Van_Grogh,I just wrote a huge reply and my phone just crashed uploading it and I really cba typing it out again yet Not ignoring you that just pissed me right off
Vincent_Van_Grogh
Vincent_Van_Grogh commented4y ago
@Darkdarktime, UGGGGH! I fkn' hate it when that happens! Oh well! Still, I always appreciate you taking the time to share your learnings with me and sending good vibes to my girls. I sent you a DM here... If interested, let's passively chat instead of writing essays on these comment sections! 😂🤣 Be well, DDT! Chat soon!
DevilsBud
DevilsBud commented4y ago
Good luck with your grow mate 💪🏻🤘🏻 looking good
Vincent_Van_Grogh
Vincent_Van_Grogh commented4y ago
@DevilsBud, thanks man! Hope your girls are well! :)
DevilsBud
DevilsBud commented4y ago
@Vincent_Van_Grogh, thanks mate yeah there doing fine 👌🏻
Ganjafarmer420flowers
Ganjafarmer420flowers commented4y ago
Looks really nice hope my turns out like this 😀 well done 👏
Vincent_Van_Grogh
Vincent_Van_Grogh commented4y ago
@Ganjafarmer420flowers, hey! Just saw yours and commented on my (limited) experience with he heavy sativa think different pheno... I am almost 100% sure yours will turn out better than mine, friend! Your grow experience will shine over my noobness. 😂🤣
Ganjafarmer420flowers
Ganjafarmer420flowers commented4y ago
@Vincent_Van_Grogh,hey mate I'm still a noob myself this is only my 4th grow first grow went well just left extractor on when drying so dryed way to quick dog poo then my second white widow auto from dp I chopped too early so that says to me I used dragon force to early stop other nutriants early at least it was a smooth smoke just very loose and not very effective so my lemonade are next with added sugar royal and top shooter instead of pk 9/18 so just learning I can added other things than using a feed chart hoping they will be bang on the lemonade this time then the think different done few week later 😀 thanks for your reply means alot
Electroculture
Electroculture commented4y ago
Nemotodes help with bugs
Vincent_Van_Grogh
Vincent_Van_Grogh commented4y ago
@Electroculture, cool! Thanks.
The_Good_Twin
The_Good_Twin commented4y ago
Your plants are looking awesome! Seems like it’s harvest time all over the place. You’re about to harvest 3 plants, and I’m getting ready to harvest 2. I’m starting to harvest my Blueberry Muffin today, then my Blueberry Ox in about a week or so. Good luck to you in your upcoming harvests!!
Vincent_Van_Grogh
Vincent_Van_Grogh commented4y ago
@The_Good_Twin, yessir! Thanks for sending good vibes! I just started my 48 hours of darkness... Making day 90
Rock_n_Roll_Randy
Rock_n_Roll_Randy commented4y ago
Wow that some awesome colors coming out bro 👏🤜🤛
Vincent_Van_Grogh
Vincent_Van_Grogh commented4y ago
@Rock_n_Roll_Randy, as my friend randy from GD (you) told me once before... "The orange pubes look great!" HAHAHAHAHA! 🤣😂
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